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Good Morning Everyone
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Tuesday April 24th, 2007
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Cale has entered DayTrading Chat
Ken-ST Moderator: gm cale
Cale gm Ken
Cale GM everyone
aon Ken - TXN out coz listed?
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johnboy guten morgen Herr Cale
Blk_lbl cale the trader man
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
***********Market Assessment**********
Daily Chart: Above the 5 day EMA, Stochastics in uptrend
Hourly Chart: Uptrend with 20 EMA above the 50 EMA
5 min Chart: Downtrend with 20 EMA below the 50 EMA
Futures are flat. Overall market bias is viewed as uptrend. Market is new multi-year high territory but approaching long term resistance levels.
Ken-ST Moderator: gm Pontiff
Cale gm JQ
Scott-ST Moderator: PARTY TIME
Blk_lbl cale is JQ still trading?
david ALEX??
Jen ALEX spread is wide
aon Ken - is TXN out because listed?
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Blk_lbl $$$$
aon add OMCL
aon OMCL
Jen AON, volume is very low
Ken-ST Moderator: we'll add TXN
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on TXN 35.51
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on TXN 35.51
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on TXN 35.51
aon ALEX still valid?
Ken-ST Moderator: ALEX is a cancel
aon k
Scott-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALEX OPENED ABOVE TRIGGER
aon CDNS can substitute :)
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Pontiff das no shorts frpt
Ken-ST Moderator: gm ayale
aon WGOV a bit thin and low float but good mover
ayale gm every one
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on FRPT 24.32
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on FRPT 24.32
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on FRPT 24.32
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy FRPT 24.32
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy FRPT 24.32
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy FRPT 24.32
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on FRPT 24.09
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on FRPT 24.09
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on FRPT 24.09
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
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Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry FRPT
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry FRPT
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry FRPT
Blk_lbl DRINKSONME!!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in FRPT
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in FRPT
Blk_lbl $$$$$$
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in FRPT
djg nice
aon sweet
Cale WEEEeeee.....
Cale ty
Scott-ST Moderator: good Job Guys
Mike22 nice. gj Ken/Scott
Blk_lbl JUSTLIKEIREMEMBERGREATJOBKEN
ayale good call nice way to start with you
Ken-ST Moderator: lets wait for the 2nd break on UCTT
Ken-ST Moderator: gj ayale
traderholic ESRX ? any reason for avoiding it?ty
Ken-ST Moderator: waiting for consolidation/pullbck
Ken-ST Moderator: straight up since the open
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 16.24
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 16.24
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 16.24
Ken-ST Moderator: Here's a nice pullback in esrx
Ken-ST Moderator: UCTT is close
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UCTT 16.24
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UCTT 16.24
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UCTT 16.24
aon filled
aon lol
aon ka ching
aon rofl
aon the wonder of bracket orders
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UCTT
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UCTT
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UCTT
Blk_lbl no britney spears on UCTT
aon lmao :)
aon fastest profit ever
kramer no britney spears?
aon although filled @ .20
Cale wow, thanks again boys
Blk_lbl no shorts
Mike22 me too aon ... @ .17
aon OMCL running ken
Blk_lbl cale these boy's are SMOKIN!!
Ken-ST Moderator: nice AON
aon asked to add :(
Ken-ST Moderator: there was a valid buy at 23.11
aon WGOV as well
aon both thtin
aon thin*
ayale thanks again..
Cale nice Morning huh
Ken-ST Moderator: Valid though
Jen Ken, TXN call still valid right? Didn't see it on the chart so wanted to check
aon what up with this IVII?
Scott-ST Moderator: yes Jen
Scott-ST Moderator: my bad
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: CANCEL TXN LONG
Ken-ST Moderator: Noted resistance just above
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on PCAR 89.76
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on PCAR 89.76
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on PCAR 89.76
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Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy PCAR 89.76
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy PCAR 89.76
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy PCAR 89.76
aon stop?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on PCAR 88.31
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on PCAR 88.31
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on PCAR 88.31
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Scott-ST Moderator: gm boomboom
Ken-ST Moderator: WB BOOM
Cale there goes YAHOO
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on OMCL 22.54
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on OMCL 22.54
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on OMCL 22.54
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on PCAR 88.60
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on PCAR 88.60
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on PCAR 88.60
Pontiff KABOOOOOOOOM!!!
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on TXN 34.66
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on TXN 34.66
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on TXN 34.66
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short OMCL 22.54
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short OMCL 22.54
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short OMCL 22.54
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in OMCL
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in OMCL
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in OMCL
Pontiff more years to come for negative RE numbers......
aon Ken - SPAR?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry PCAR
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry PCAR
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry PCAR
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in PCAR
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in PCAR
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in PCAR
Jen wow, what a call
Jen not for the faint of heart, that trade
Ken-ST Moderator: yup
Ken-ST Moderator: that one fadedt the market allthe way
Jen I'm sure it shook many out with that dip
aon SPAR?
Ken-ST Moderator: good area
Ken-ST Moderator: we'll keep eye on it
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Jen CDWC HOD?
Scott-ST Moderator: lets wait for a better pull back
Pontiff this guy cant be more right on RE
Cale 4%, nice Tue boys!!!
Scott-ST Moderator: Thanks Cale
Scott-ST Moderator: hope you got some of that!!
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Cale got 2% for the day
Cale and thats always good!!
Scott-ST Moderator: it is, good job Sir
aon SGEN starting to pop
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Scott-ST Moderator: wb Amlo
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Amlo Gm to all
Scott-ST Moderator: wb JQ
Cale gm Amlo
Cale JQbo, nice to have you back!!!
JQ ty Great Scott... Calebo
aon JDAS in good area
aon it had #'s last night
aon didn't gap but moving up
Mike22 Ken - is TXN short @lod a cancel? ..not on board
Scott-ST Moderator: yes Mike
Ken-ST Moderator: LOD is good
Scott-ST Moderator: Long is is Canceled
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry it should be on the board
Mike22 tks
Ken-ST Moderator: ty
Ken-ST Moderator: market below last fridays lows
Ken-ST Moderator: just off the lod
Duke it is at the bottom on b stocks
Cale what do you mean RE numbers Pontiff?
aon ADCT making nhod
Duke real estate..?
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Scott-ST Moderator: gm Jake
jakerez gm scott and ken
JQ Calebo existing Home sales down 8.4%
JQ 6.12 mil. units
Cale what about new Home sales?
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Scott-ST Moderator: gm Wolf
Scott-ST Moderator: wb Kramer
Wolf gm scott and all
Ken-ST Moderator: gm Wolf
Ken-ST Moderator: gm jake
Ken-ST Moderator: wb kramer
jakerez hey
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Duke CaleBo...you get that snow yet?
Cale yep, getting it right now
JP I'm just getting rain.
Duke glad it is you
Duke not me
Duke LOL
Cale Now I cant watch TV my satellite is covered with snow
Cale JP you only have rain?
JP So far.
Cale oh,
aon ALTR near hod
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on ALTR 22.91
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on ALTR 22.91
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on ALTR 22.91
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Scott-ST Moderator: Jen Still warm out in your neck of the woods?
aon Ken - do u like SNA?
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on FRPT 23.49
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on FRPT 23.49
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on FRPT 23.49
Ken-ST Moderator: Its a little extended, but looks solid
Scott-ST Moderator: i LOVE SNA
Scott-ST Moderator: I heart SNA
Scott-ST Moderator: but.....
Scott-ST Moderator: guess what the but is AON
aon lol
aon listed
Scott-ST Moderator: and extended
Ken-ST Moderator: market is dangermouse to the downside today
aon check out TRCR?
Cale mouse....
Scott-ST Moderator: that chart looks good
Scott-ST Moderator: let it pull back to the 5 ema then see what it does
Scott-ST Moderator:
Gang,we strongly suggest that a 5 minute candlestick chart of the SPX be kept open to give you a visual of current market conditions, overlay this chart with 5, 20 and 50 ema and slow stochastics. You will find that this will help you with your personal daytrading, giving you the “heartbeat” of the market.
aon altr real close
Cale dangermouse
Scott-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy ALTR 22.91
Scott-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy ALTR 22.91
Scott-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy ALTR 22.91
Scott-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy ALTR 22.91
aon sheezzzz TRCR moved to 13!!!
Scott-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on ALTR 22.62
Scott-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on ALTR 22.62
aon was 12.56 when talked about...
Scott-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on ALTR 22.62
Cale do we have a stop on ALTR?
Cale j/k
Scott-ST Moderator: huh?
Cale aon you in TRCR?
Cale I like that pull back there
aon i wish cale bro
aon maybe will take some
aon ESRX!!!
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CDWC 70.09
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CDWC 70.09
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CDWC 70.09
Cale in TRCR AT 12.75 w/crossed fingers
JP I want to play TRCR but spread to big for me
Ken-ST Moderator: y its over 1%
Cale make that work for you
Ken-ST Moderator: need good routing skills
Cale put my order in at the bid and hopped
Ken-ST Moderator: down the bunny trail?
aon why didn't we go ESRX?
Cale down the LOD trail
JQ lol
Ken-ST Moderator: it camed a long ways to the hod area
Scott-ST Moderator: very close to LUNCH righ now aon
Ken-ST Moderator: we are very cautiuos to the long side here
Cale lol
traderholic even the break at 96.31 on ESRX?
Scott-ST Moderator: remember 1% profit on ESRX is 97.85
Scott-ST Moderator: a long way away
JP Rain starting to turn to snow now Cale.
Cale hoped
aon right
Cale JP, is it supposed to get colder?
JP I think it is supposed to be in the mid 40's.
aon wow, did anyone see AMRN?
Cale out of TRCR, doh
Scott-ST Moderator: should have waited until it came down to the 5 ema
Scott-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CDWC 70.09
Scott-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL TYPE B ALERTS UNTIL AFTER THE LUNCH TURN
traderholic lol
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-0]
JQ I didn't see a think Great Scott
JQ Thing
Scott-ST Moderator: LOL ty JQ
aon SGEN got decent vol now
aon lol, this OMCL is all over the place...
Scott-ST Moderator: chart looks good aon, the stoks are a bit overbought
Jim MTOX is heading back up
Scott-ST Moderator: needs to take out yesterdays HOD
Scott-ST Moderator: then pull back or consolidate
Scott-ST Moderator: the take out it the HOD
Scott-ST Moderator: and not suring lunch
Scott-ST Moderator: other then that it looks good
Jim thats all? lol
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-5]
JP VLTR could be a play after lunch.
Scott-ST Moderator: how did we miss that gap up?
johnboy too bad these CNBC guys are in different areas
Scott-ST Moderator: HUGE green Candle at the open
Cale whys that JB?
johnboy lookl like they would be jerry springering all over the place
Cale (no TV today)
Cale lol
Jen no kidding. I had to mute them, Charlie gets on my nerves
Cale love when then get HOT at each other
Cale whos in the middle?
jakerez lets see if Bush's words moves the market.........
johnboy some fast money dude
Cale ah Charlie
Jen blah, blah, blah
johnboy they need those electro shockers like the Simpsons had during their therapy
Cale Jen, turn up the brightness on your TV to see if that helps him?
Jen what?
jakerez lol
Cale isnt that what the brightness button does?
Jen zap em'?
Cale C'Mon Jen
Cale you remember way back when
johnboy as much as don't like President Bush, he does have a valid point
Cale the old TVs had a brightness button
Jen I don't Cale. See what age does to ya?
Cale lol
johnboy you guys are in an untenable situation over there...
Jen yeah Johnboy, but we wouldn't be in this spot if it weren't for him. He just doesn't want to admit he was wrong
Jen (stepping off of soap box now..)
johnboy agree Jen
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johnboy but what's done is done, and I don't see a good end to all of this
Cale lol
Jen Cale, when I was a kid we had an antenna on the roof and had to turn a dial to tune in the reception. My brother and I were the "remote control" channel changer for my dad
Cale I agree also Jen
Jen Cale, we didn't have a remote control when I was a kid. The kids were the remote control!
Cale a;lsjfa;lskjf;alksjfl;kasjfal;ksdjfl;kasdjfl;kasjdflk;asjdflk;asjdflkasjdflk;asjdflk;asjdflk;ajsdflkjasdlkfjaslkjflkasjflk;asjdflkasjfl;kasf
Cale a;sldjfl;aksjflk;asdjflk;asdjflkasjdflkasjdlkfjasdlkfjlkjflk;asdjflk;asdjflk;asdjf
Jen Are you blocking me Scott?
Cale but hes a nice Lady
jakerez that was quick...thank god
Jen snafu in the system Scott?
Scott-ST Moderator: Chat seems to be delayed
Cale test
Scott-ST Moderator: working now Jen?
Jen Cale, did you see my response to you above?
Jen yeah
Cale readning now
Jen I thought I was being censored for my war comments
Jen silly me!
johnboy Jen = Hippie?
jakerez jen has wmd...words of mass destruction
Cale lol I was the remote control also
Jen johnboy, I'm not THAT OLD!
Cale make us watch commercials, thats for sure
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Scott-ST Moderator: Take care Ken
johnboy Jen = Yippie?
Scott-ST Moderator: have a good evening!!
Cale its Mss Jen btw
Jen Not sure what my era is?
Cale la8ers Kenbro
johnboy what is MSS?
Jen Thanks Cale (oh man of great respect)
Cale heheh
Jen Mizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz so as not to suggest married or not. Isn't that how it works?
Cale anyone other then me in ALTR??
Jen yes, it's trying to break out
jakerez me..wooohoooo
Cale yes Jen thats how it works!!
johnboy but you've already tipped your hand, Cale sent us your doessier
aon y cale me too
johnboy dossier
johnboy ?
Jen he wouldn't do that
aon did u see your hero btw
Cale yea I dont even know what a dossier is
Jen classier version of bio I think
Mike22 me too aon
johnboy I thought is more like a bio of someone that they give to spies
Mike22 oops..cale
Jen oh, that sounds so much more interesting then
Cale oh a dosya
Jen that's southern Cale
Cale LOL
johnboy dosey-doh, now swing your partner and off we go, the head to sashay, and back to place..............LOL
aon SGEN signaling
Cale Etymology: French, bundle of documents labeled on the back, dossier, from dos back, from Latin dorsum
Jen wow, you're so smart
Cale Johnboy, is !!!
Cale not me, he can even spell algorythim
johnboy LOL
Cale JP did you watch Heroes last night?
Cale Jen did you watch the apprentise?
aon who won?
Cale Johnboy did you watch Debbie does Denver?
aon who won?
Jen yes, be right back, on the phone
Cale the Girl Stephanie
aon who did the D pick?
aon wow
Jen Stephanie
Cale Stefani
Scott-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on ALTR 22.74
Scott-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on ALTR 22.74
Scott-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on ALTR 22.74
Scott-ST Moderator: didnt watch the Apprentice at all
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Jen oh Scott, what else could you possibly be watching??
Scott-ST Moderator: WB Ken
Cale KENBRO we missed you
Scott-ST Moderator: me?
Scott-ST Moderator: you mean Cale
Jen Scott
Scott-ST Moderator: you mean Stocks?
Cale aon whats the D Pick?
Jen are you trying to confuse me?
aon the Donald's
Jen I mean you not watching the Apprentice
Scott-ST Moderator: Cale was asking about who watched Heroes, the apprentice and Debbie does....
Scott-ST Moderator: I do not watch the Apprentice, wife does while I clean the Kitchen
theking Scott, Ken... how is UCTT setting up for an after lunch short again?
Scott-ST Moderator: if I cooked that is
Scott-ST Moderator: nothing right now King too hard to say, its right in the middle of its intra day trading range
Jen wow Scott, you're a good man
Ken-ST Moderator: You're a nice lady
Jen good one Ken
aon AKS is on fire again
Ken-ST Moderator: what was the noise Liz was making just now
Ken-ST Moderator: that was hot
JQ what did I miss?
Ken-ST Moderator: Liz making strange noises on CNBC
Ken-ST Moderator: hot
Ken-ST Moderator: Scanning for Type C shorts
JQ Tivo in action!
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Cale JQ how did we live before with out DVR?
Scott-ST Moderator: ty Jen
JQ lol I tried to tivo the radio in the car the other day
Cale OMG I am so glad you said that, I wanted to do that the other day also
aon SGEN keep dgrinding up slowly
Cale reached over to find the back button
JQ LMAO
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JQ Couldn't find Liz noise...Kenbo is Liz sending you white noise messages??
djg i can't even watch regular tv anymore I always go to fast forward through commercials
aon PCAR is taking a breezer
Ken-ST Moderator: hmm check the time stamp on when I posted
aon this could have been a nice type C
Ken-ST Moderator: weird noise
aon what a spike in the Q's...
aon calebo, did u notice SNDK hod :)
aon ?
Jen ALTR gonna pop
Cale yep got upgraded i think
Cale SNDK that is
aon Jen u still in ALTR?
Jen yep
Scott-ST Moderator: we stand buy all our open positions
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry
aon HON a nice continuation b/o
Ken-ST Moderator: gang this breakout on ALTR is coming during lunch period
Ken-ST Moderator: scaling out some here would be ok
aon cale was that u bringing up HERO yesterday?
Cale it was you? no?
aon nope
Scott-ST Moderator: Missed that Gap up Play
aon PCAR is so oversold right now
aon i wonder if it could be a type c play for a bounce?
Scott-ST Moderator: looking for type C's that are a Short right now
aon yes Scott, i was just wondering
Scott-ST Moderator: coo
aon huh?
Scott-ST Moderator: cool
Jen lady on CNBC looks like she's wearing a disguise
johnboy it's austin powers
Cale lol hiding from Bob P ?
aon rofl
johnboy 1980 called, they would like their hairstyle back
aon CDWC near hod again
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
aon man the chips are on fire
aon SMH up 3.8% !!!
Scott-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in ALTR
Scott-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in ALTR
Scott-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in ALTR
Scott-ST Moderator: ooops
Scott-ST Moderator: Profit Gang
Jen the nasdaq is screaming back up
Scott-ST Moderator: same with all the markets
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david ESRX
Cale and dont forget TXN
aon CDWC nhod
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Scott-ST Moderator: wb Jake
jakerez wb...and im leaving again....lol
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
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Kramer1 how about SNDK?
Scott-ST Moderator: SNDK still in recent trading Range
aon well Scott, PCAR is a whole buck over now :(
Ken-ST Moderator: we are long SNDK on our swing trade
Scott-ST Moderator: what do you mean aon?
aon the type C i was wondering?
jakerez adios ken and scott
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Jen I can't help thinking of Shakira when I see jakerez' name. What's with that?
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: Jakira
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Jen Surprised Cale didn't jump all over that!
Cale lol, I guess I just dont understand
Jen the singer Shakira, doesn't jakerez' name sound like hers when you read it?
Jen I must be bored or something
Cale lol
Jen TXN is sneaking back up
Cale dont know her all that well
Cale to be honest dont know here at all, I guess I am too old or just need to get out....
Jen surprised, nearly naked, well known for shakin' her booty
Cale lol
Ken-ST Moderator: Hey Amlo
Cale have to love Google!!
Jen did you google her?
Cale heheh well I searched her on the internet
Jen you'd know her songs if you heard it.
Jen them
Jen "Hips Don't Lie" I think is the one they play frequently
Ken-ST Moderator: haha
Jen isn't that the one?
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah i think so
Ken-ST Moderator: allz i picture is her daincing
Ken-ST Moderator: dancing
Jen oh my gosh, you have to go to the spoof of her video, www.video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8718728501056290731.com
Cale which one?
Jen the link doesn't take you to it?
Cale takes me to a bunch of links
Jen if not go to google, type in shakira hips don't lie and click on the first one that comes up
Cale cool
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Jen Cale, isn't it funny??
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Cale lol well
Cale I guess I am just too old
Jen the 3rd one in the search I described is actually her
aon CA is giving a 2GB flash for free + Antivirus (after rebate)
Cale she is hot
Jen she can certainly move
Cale YES
Cale popping my eyes back into my head
Jen hehehehe
aon anyone interested?
Cale whats the catch aon?
Ken-ST Moderator: shhhhhh, Darby Dunn is on
aon no catch cale
Ken-ST Moderator: gang, market stoch in middle of trend
Cale nice Ken
Cale wish I had TV
Cale huge snow fall now
Cale Ken I will email you a picture...
Ken-ST Moderator: wow, what is Shakira doing on CNBC?
aon u buy the flash and getting a full rebate + antivirus package+free S&H
Ken-ST Moderator: why is she dancing with Darby
Ken-ST Moderator: whoa whoa, why so skimpy with the clothes
Cale I hate rebates, I never seem to get them back
aon http://shop.ca.com/STContent/landingpages/Flashdrive/FLD001/index.aspx?sc_lang=en-US
johnboy oh no, must be a fire, sprinklers just came on........
johnboy LOL
Cale only about 1/2 the time i send one in i get it back
Ken-ST Moderator: damn, Shakira must be thinking What a bad day to wear a white t-shirt
Jen which one are you watching?
Ken-ST Moderator: ah its over. but im glad i got to watch it. probably never again CNBC
Cale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htJuGVrhKWc
Cale wow
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
Jen you guys must be heating up the server, it threw me off!
Cale lol
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Scott-ST Moderator: ga Kristi
aon lots of earnings today
Cale RRPH HOD!!!
aon AMZN, SUNW, ANAD, PNRA....
Scott-ST Moderator: okay Gang we are rolling out of lunch
aon wth calebo? it's an otc stock...
johnboy you guys should listen to this, it is sung by someone who is very attractive AND can actually sing and play the guitar (vegetarian, environmentalist, and pet advocate too.........sigh........does it get any better?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWR5xWEuvag
Cale great Song JB!!
Cale did you watch it yesterday?
johnboy no
johnboy I've never watched Heroes
Ken-ST Moderator: damn jb did you get that from my personal homepage?
Cale Sarah Mclachlan Rocks
JQ LOL
johnboy Sarah McLachlan is drop dead gorgeous
Ken-ST Moderator: word up
Cale I'will 2nd that!!
johnboy I saw her perform in Vancouver and was dumbstruck by her beauty and the raw emotion in her voice
johnboy see her live if you ever get the chance
Cale I did, about 4 years ago
Cale she did a Halloween Concert here
johnboy sweet, did you enjoy it?
aon aapl is taking a dump
Cale loved it, we were 12 rows back just left of center stage
Cale and it was a low stage
Cale she played for about 2 hours
aon wow AAPL
david LTD
Cale Ken did you get my Snow Pictures?
Jen options backdating stuff
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah very cool ty
Ken-ST Moderator: im waiting for global warming to kick in so that he erratic weather brings snow to hawaii
Ken-ST Moderator: geez what am I talking about, its all cyclical
Cale if there is a Hawaii left, the way its shrinking
david RMD
Ken-ST Moderator: looks good david
Jen is it shrinking Ken?
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah its due to the very cold water
johnboy shrinkage?
johnboy I thought it was warm there
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on RMD 43.89
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on RMD 43.89
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on RMD 43.89
johnboy LMAO
johnboy no soup for you
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Cale uh-oh, getting down to the bottom when Ken puts up Listed stocks for afternoon alerts
aon lol
Cale LOL
johnboy so, if this artist was American and a touch slimmer, she would be a super celebrity singer..........I don't really like her music all that much, but even a hack like me can tell that her voice is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaSDEUITIfk
johnboy Jann Arden, btw
aon VG popping - any news?
david MRVL
Scott-ST Moderator: wait why slimmer?
JP They signed up a new customer?
aon lmao
johnboy you're a nice lady
Scott-ST Moderator: where is she from JB?
Scott-ST Moderator: up North?
johnboy yep
Jen anyone play the AAPL bounce?
aon in now Jen
Duke CRAB APPL
aon ok nomore
Cale I dont mess with AAPL unless the markets are really trending
Cale lol exactly Duke
aon quick scalp +.2
Duke NUTTY STOCK
Cale good job aon
johnboy another hidden talent is Chantal Kreviazuk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTtfTWas3Jw
Scott-ST Moderator: okay JB whats next?
aon wow VG
aon wth?
JQ your an insensitive nice lady
Scott-ST Moderator: LOL
Scott-ST Moderator: that one is okay, not as good as the last one
johnboy but my all time favourite.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK_w8nfCJhE
Scott-ST Moderator: video is kinda cool
johnboy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK_w8nfCJhE
aon omg AAPL
aon jeeeeeeeezzzzzzz
JQ agree Great Scott
Jen don't be greedy AON
johnboy nah Scott, give Chantal a 2nd listen
johnboy ok, I won't flood the chat anymore
johnboy the last one is for Cale
Jen bag your profit
Scott-ST Moderator: good one JB
Cale Nope, all time best is http://youtube.com/watch?v=UQkns2Ltglw
Scott-ST Moderator: Johnboy, bring it on
JQ Is Bif a nevernude jbbo
Scott-ST Moderator: load up the Chat!!
johnboy I hope not JQBRO, I am in love with Bif
Cale yep I do like the Bif, not much into the look but good tunes
johnboy ouch that sounds bad
david LTD COMING
johnboy note to non-youtubers, Bif is female!!!!!!
Cale LOL JB loves Bif
Cale Bif McFly?
johnboy hmm, saw this coming
Cale wasnt fast enough
johnboy that was Tobias slipup
JQ LOL jbbo she has more tatoo's than Alan iverson!
johnboy check out her bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bif_Naked
Cale TRCR HOD
JQ LMAO greenskeeper LOTION
johnboy this market needs a claptrack
nick uctt dropping
Cale LOL thats the best video JQ
johnboy I think it's a documentary about some guy that lives just south of Denver
aon hero hod
Cale lol
JQ Bif is skerry jbbo
johnboy skater chicks rule!
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Cale lol
Scott-ST Moderator: wb boomboom
JQ lol
boomboom tk
Scott-ST Moderator: BRB Gang
aon uctt heading slowly down
johnboy If I was Bush, I would kidnap Fareed Zakaria and put him in charge of foreign policy
Ken-ST Moderator: Shakira is in charge of foreign policy?
johnboy Smartest guy that I have ever seen on U.S. TV
johnboy except for Jack Bauer of course
Jen if she were, she'd have their undivided attention
Jen I think they're related though Ken
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Jen :)
Ken-ST Moderator: and their brother Jake
Jen ??missed that one
Ken-ST Moderator: Jakerez
Jen oh, good one!
djg doesn't sound like fareed zakaria is a texas boy I think that is a requirement in bush admin
johnboy Here's a quote from his current article on Asia/U.S. relations: The real problem with our Asia policy is not the Bush administration but the U.S. political system. Congress is in a narrow-minded and protectionist mood, unlikely to see the need for trade agreements, foreign aid and far greater engagement with a crucial country like Vietnam. Minor issues, ideological obsessions and small but tenacious domestic lobbies hold back sustained strategic movement in foreign policy.
johnboy smartest guy on TV, bar none
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johnboy Can you imagine how powerful the U.S. could be with the right people running the show?
Ken-ST Moderator: i agree
johnboy http://www.fareedzakaria.com/articles/articles.html
aon KEn HERO is good if will try again?
Ken-ST Moderator: Yes aon
Ken-ST Moderator: ideal
Ken-ST Moderator: lets issue
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on HERO 29.02
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on HERO 29.02
Ken-ST Moderator:
Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on HERO 29.02
aon watching SPAR here
aon probably as Ken always says not on 1st try
aon SPAR is related to FRPT (making the motors if i remember correctly)
Ken-ST Moderator: motors for?
aon for the cougars that FRPT produces
Ken-ST Moderator: SPAR needs consoldiation
aon i count on you ;)
david almost 1% in LTD what a terrifc day ty scott &ken
Ken-ST Moderator: nice david
Ken-ST Moderator: gj
Ken-ST Moderator: very nice breakout there
Ken-ST Moderator: did you play the breakout past 28.26?
david post it 15 minutes ago
Ken-ST Moderator: ah, nice
Ken-ST Moderator: i stepped away
david yes 28.26
Ken-ST Moderator: where did you place your initial stop?
david 27.99
david ESRX try hard to break
aon wowo VG !!!!
Ken-ST Moderator: very nic david
david IBM
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Ken-ST Moderator: IBM near resistance area on daily
aon SPAR working now
david where is the hi of ibm is it .90 or .67?
JP I show 99.75 HOD
david unclear in ibm
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
Ken-ST Moderator: market nearing the hod
jakerez ty
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aon quick scalped VG :)
aon still in half
aon weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
david WBSN
aon lift off
boomboom me 2 tks
JP Lot of shorts in VG....will have to cover at some point.
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Ken-ST Moderator: VG surging
Jen Scott, don't recall if you guys use 200 ema on daily? Looks like resistance on HERO
Jen or Ken
Ken-ST Moderator: I dont look at the 200
Ken-ST Moderator: just 5, 20 and 50
Jen gotcha
aon Jen don't overlook :)
Jen you're so right AON, you caught me
aon haha lol
Jen hi, my name is Jen, and I'm an over-analyzer!
aon Ken, u keep watchig SPAR or need to nag you?
aon ESRX
aon boom
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boomboom not me
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Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy HERO 29.02
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy HERO 29.02
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy HERO 29.02
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 28.79
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 28.79
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 28.79
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy RMD 43.89
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy RMD 43.89
Ken-ST Moderator:
TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy RMD 43.89
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on RMD 43.39
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on RMD 43.39
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on RMD 43.39
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
mred tks
aon is CCE a JSDA wannabe?
aon wth got into it?
aon SPAR chopping
aon at least it made a clear stop in case we will take it
aon Ken - RMD's stop can't be improved a bit??
aon the .55 and the .65 seems to be safer
aon and nearer
Scott-ST Moderator: its okay now I am back
Cale wb Scott
Scott-ST Moderator: ty
aon david your LTD is en fuego!!!
Scott-ST Moderator: I see Ken has been busy
aon what about SPAR Scott bro
aon anyone in RMD?
Scott-ST Moderator: love it, nice pull back to the 5 ema
jakerez yessah
aon u back jakass?
aon lol
aon j/k
aon :)
jakerez nic guy
Scott-ST Moderator: the Markets are coming down from overbought area
aon so are we gonna try SPAR or not?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
aon at least it made a nice deep to the .70 are a few times to make the stop cler
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry HERO
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry HERO
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry HERO
aon clear
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Scott-ST Moderator: aon, it might work out but we think SPAR is overbought and its too late
aon gotcha
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Ken-ST Moderator: hi ayale
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Scott-ST Moderator: well all righttty JP have a good evening
Scott-ST Moderator: take care bud
Jen thoughts on holding out for a full 1% on HERO?
Cale nada
aon i trimmed half already Jen
aon right here
Cale i took 100%
Jen I bailed at .16
Scott-ST Moderator: good job Jen!
Scott-ST Moderator: nothing wrong at all for taking profits
Scott-ST Moderator: there is no LAW that you have to wait for 1%
Jen true, once green never red is my motto
aon oh, really? there isn't? i'll be damned...
aon i was sure there is...
aon :)
Scott-ST Moderator: take it when you are comfortable
aon UBSS is sitting on the .20
aon if it makes it through it will fly
Jen the market makers were making me nervous on this one
Cale Scott, ALTR should be closed, right?
Ken-ST Moderator: sell into moves in your favor
Ken-ST Moderator: its alte int he day
Scott-ST Moderator: yes my bad, ty Cale
Ken-ST Moderator: its late in the day
aon when u see UBSS sitting on the ask (and u long) expect a movement
Ken-ST Moderator: take some off then you will assure yourself at least some profits
aon and the opposite
aon now UBSS .29
Scott-ST Moderator: yea, what Ken Said
aon better take something b4 that and leave some
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 29.09 In the money
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 29.09 In the money
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 29.09 In the money
Scott-ST Moderator: YEA What Ken said
JQ what Liz making noises agin!
Ken-ST Moderator: mmmmmmmmm
Cale put the lotion in the basket
Cale have to love greenskeepers video
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JQ lol calebo they are talking about your girl in the futures room
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 29.17 In the money
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 29.17 In the money
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on HERO 29.17 In the money
Scott-ST Moderator: yea, what Ken said
Cale Erin?
traderholic i like this moneymanagment stop strategy,ty
Cale I miss her today
JQ white noise?
johnboy yeah, she looks good in a cowboy hat
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Ken-ST Moderator: giddyup
Cale NO I missed the Cowboy hat?
JQ short-shorts and straw
Cale oh dont tell me thiese things
Ken-ST Moderator: gang its late in the day. You should be scaling out of HERO on this here rally
Ken-ST Moderator: risk nothing
Ken-ST Moderator: lock in some greeen
Ken-ST Moderator: it aint easy being green ya know
johnboy Erin must be impersonating Daisy Duke or something
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Cale oh, thats killing me
Ken-ST Moderator: Betty Boop?
JQ jbbo how do you get a cowboy hat on that hair helmet
johnboy 10 gallon
aon oh there goes RMD pig
JQ LMAO
aon common (as vu likes to say) pig
Ken-ST Moderator: lol jq
Ken-ST Moderator: 10 gallon hat?
Ken-ST Moderator: 25 gallon
JQ What kind of horse would she ride?
Jen speaking of pig, did anyone hear Alec Baldwins voicemail to his daughter calling her a pig?
Scott-ST Moderator: Okay Folks, now would be a good time to take some profits off the table with HERO as its getting very late in the day. This Rally is showing its hand!!!!
Scott-ST Moderator: Risk Nothing
Cale good call Scott, thanks
Cale what happend regarding that Jen?
Cale I heard it on the news the other day
JQ yea' what Scott said
Cale sounded like my dad in the day
Scott-ST Moderator: ty JQ
Jen his daughter didn't answer his phone as scheduled so he left her a 2 minute rant calling her nasty names and told her how he was going to let her have it when he saw her
Jen didn't answer his phone call that is
Ken-ST Moderator: why didnt he have a cell phone
Jen that's what it was
Jen she didn't answer her cell when he called
Cale what he said wasnt right as a parent but we dont know the other side of the story either
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Jen can't think that there is ever a reason for a father to speak to his daughter in that way
Cale agree
aon UBSS stepped up to .30 (in hero)
aon and it is boxing it with a bid in .20
aon interesting...
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Scott-ST Moderator: tc nick
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in HERO
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in HERO
Ken-ST Moderator:
1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in HERO
Ken-ST Moderator: THAT'S HOW WE ROLL
johnboy good trading today ladies and gents, thanks for the day Ken/Scott
Jen excellent. Never thought it would get there
Ken-ST Moderator: ok jb,
Ken-ST Moderator: have a good one
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Cale I did
Cale I know it would make it all they way
aon wow RMD
Cale LOL
aon holy cow
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on RMD 43.69
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on RMD 43.69
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop on RMD 43.69
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry RMD
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry RMD
Ken-ST Moderator:
UPDATE: Moving stop to entry RMD
Ken-ST Moderator: Risk nothing on RMD gangalies
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aon cale
aon u here?
aon i have smething for u
Cale :)
Ken-ST Moderator: gang you can thank David for bringing up RMD
Ken-ST Moderator: ty david
Cale uh-oh
aon TRCR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ken-ST Moderator: gang scale profits with moves in your favor
Ken-ST Moderator: its late in teh day
Cale ty David
Ken-ST Moderator: and you want to go home handsome
Ken-ST Moderator: risk nothing
Cale been watching it
Ken-ST Moderator: lock in some green
aon am not david
aon gggrrrrrr
Cale no I was thinking David for RMD
Ken-ST Moderator: you brought up RMD aon?
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry
Ken-ST Moderator: gang thank AON and David
aon oh no
aon sorry
aon it's david
aon thought about something else
Jen 100 % green calls today! Nice job guys!
Ken-ST Moderator: thanks, jen
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-10]
aon AMZING pit here!!!!
Cale Calling it a day Gang, have a good one everyone
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Cale see you tomorrow
Jen bye
Scott-ST Moderator: nite Cale
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Scott-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL ALERTS FOR THE DAY
ayale nice day to start with you guys, thanks a lot..
Scott-ST Moderator: tc ayale
Jen don't know any other site posting up these kind of numbers.
djg good day all
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Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-6] ty
Mike22 caught 'em all today. 7 for 7 ..tks guys!
Scott-ST Moderator: tc djg
Ken-ST Moderator: nice mike
Scott-ST Moderator: nice job Mike!!
aon wtg mike!
Jen great job Mike22
Ken-ST Moderator: ok gang, Im out
aon tc Ken
Ken-ST Moderator: will see you all tomorrow
Ken-ST Moderator: take care gang
Mike22 first time I did that...
Jen night
Scott-ST Moderator: tc Ken
Scott-ST Moderator: good trading Mike!!
Ken-ST Moderator: gn jen, mike, scott, aon
Ken-ST Moderator: and the rest of the 2 live crew
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Scott-ST Moderator:
STOPPED Consider exit in RMD BREAK EVEN
Scott-ST Moderator:
STOPPED Consider exit in RMD BREAK EVEN
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STOPPED Consider exit in RMD BREAK EVEN
aon zero the HERO
Jen I'm going to go too. Take care. See you tomorrow
Scott-ST Moderator: TC Jen
aon when UBSS is involved I'm always expecting some turbulence...
Scott-ST Moderator: see ya tomorrow
aon bye Jen
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Mike22 see you tommorrow. gonna have a nice glass of ....well..ya know.