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********** Good Morning Everyone
********** Tuesday November 14th 2006
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If you would be wealthy, think of saving as well as getting.
- Benjamin Franklin
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Ken-ST Moderator: gm qweqwe
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kami ken / scott what does 20 / 50 before ema indicate?
JQ GM gang
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qweqwe gm Ken...all
Ken-ST Moderator: those are the Moving Averages
johnboy good morning gents/ladies
Ken-ST Moderator: gm 888, jb
Scott-ST Moderator: gm Johnboy
Scott-ST Moderator: gm JQ
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Ken-ST Moderator: gm Jim. Bry
Bry gm all
Jim gm
Ken-ST Moderator: 20 period Movingaverage, and 50 period Moving average
kami tnx
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Ken-ST Moderator: gm eddie
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Ken-ST Moderator: cm traders
Ken-ST Moderator: gm
Ken-ST Moderator: gm Cale
j5 good trades all
Cale GM Ken/Scott
eddie gm
Ken-ST Moderator: Futures coming back down a little, now back into the p/d trading range
Cale good morning everyone
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CTSH 79.66
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CTSH 79.66
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CTSH 79.66
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on RIMM 129.01
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on RIMM 129.01
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on RIMM 129.01
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CMED 29.01
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CMED 29.01
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CMED 29.01
Ken-ST Moderator: RIMM is close
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy RIMM 129.01
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy RIMM 129.01
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy RIMM 129.01
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Ken-ST Moderator: gm ryan
ryan gm ken
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AEOS 48.51
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AEOS 48.51
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AEOS 48.51
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AMZN 40.34
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AMZN 40.34
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AMZN 40.34
Ken-ST Moderator: AMZN is close
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy AMZN 40.34
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy AMZN 40.34
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy AMZN 40.34
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry RIMM
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry RIMM
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry RIMM
djg stop on RIMM
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in RIMM
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in RIMM
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in RIMM
Ken-ST Moderator: disregard that first post about entry
Ken-ST Moderator: typo
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mellowg REGN ??
Scott-ST Moderator: still in P/D range
DavidBer Ken what are you calling the exit on rimm at?
Ken-ST Moderator: REGN recent range rather
Scott-ST Moderator: 128.47
mellowg ok
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CTSH 78.04
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CTSH 78.04
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on CTSH 78.04
Newbie2 stop on amzn?
Ken-ST Moderator: 30.99
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Ken-ST Moderator: 39.99
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Newbie2 ??
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mellowg EFUT ??
Scott-ST Moderator: No history
rwalsh fyi, ctsh being added to s&p 500 effect after close on 11/16/06
Ken-ST Moderator: looking at that now
Ken-ST Moderator: will keep eye on it
Ken-ST Moderator: ty rwalsh
jharms EFUT is on fire
Ken-ST Moderator: market pulling back off the highs
Scott-ST Moderator: theres the commercial
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CTCI 21.22
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on CTCI 21.22
Ken-ST Moderator: Stock is on the thin side
Ken-ST Moderator: market still trading in the recent trading range on daily
Ken-ST Moderator: well within the p/d range
mellowg EFUT stalling
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Scott-ST Moderator: CTCI getting close
DavidBer 7c spread on ctci
Cale might be a good one to avoid
DavidBer adjust s/l on amzn?
Cale nothing personal Ken/Scott
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mellowg out EFUT
Scott-ST Moderator: make money mellowg?
toolhater when there are two positions for a stock like for ctsh, is that correct
mellowg bought 36.52 sold 39.53
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jharms nice mellowg
DavidBer Son of a !!!! NO LIZ again
Ken-ST Moderator: wow mellow, gj
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
mellowg rare..but enjoyable
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy CTCI 21.22
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy CTCI 21.22
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy CTCI 21.22
jharms i sat out and watched it go from 35 to 40
Ken-ST Moderator: Yeah, I am writing a strongly worded letter to CNBC letting Liz off like that
Ken-ST Moderator: how selfish is that
jharms and now 41
Scott-ST Moderator: yes Tool
DavidBer If she is on assignment, she needs to be here NEXT TO ME! that is the ONLY valid assignment imo
Scott-ST Moderator: one for a long and one for a short
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
toolhater ok, thanks
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTCI 20.99
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTCI 20.99
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTCI 20.99
Cale she went to Hawaii
DavidBer My bedroom is not in hawaii - - - hmmm....
Newbie2 and now43
mellowg ahhhhhhhh well.... shoulda coulda woulda stayed but i have a large frin on my face...so....
Pontiff she is at her plastic surgens office enlarging her breasts...
mellowg frin=grin
DavidBer jealous pontiff?
Ken-ST Moderator: yup mellow take it and run
Pontiff of you?
Ken-ST Moderator: dont look back
Scott-ST Moderator: PG-13 Please
limey look at EFUT go !!
DavidBer Don't bash the babe . . .
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Scott-ST Moderator: wow Limey
Scott-ST Moderator: mellow see that?
Ricky Ken, you're playing it pretty tight with the stops, more my speed. Are you being concervative or are these really the support/resist levels?
Scott-ST Moderator: Mellow couldnt handle it, he had to log out
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Ken-ST Moderator: this is a choppy area for the market
limey did not get in the spread was scarey
Scott-ST Moderator: very Concervative
mellowg lol...backspace takes me out of chat
Scott-ST Moderator: oh I thought EFUT blow you away
Ricky Nothing wrong with that. I feel I trade better with tigher stops.
JP EFUT - $6.75 to $45 in 3 weeks.
Cale I too trade with very tight stops Ricky
mellowg nearly did scott... shesssh 47 hod... who would have beleived
Cale much tighter then what they use in the room
Ken-ST Moderator: I personally do not like tighter stops. I like giving stocks room to move within its trend. Its just so happen the triggers are coming with tigher stops
Ken-ST Moderator: this am
Ricky Good to know Cale.
Ken-ST Moderator: AMZN new hod
mellowg the worst it that nobody understand what EFUT does for a living....grin
JP and what is that?
djg I understand it helped me make a living today
mellowg lol
DavidBer chinese version of SAP
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mellowg tks db
Ken-ST Moderator: CTSH is close
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short CTSH 78.04
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short CTSH 78.04
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short CTSH 78.04
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTSH 79.01
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTSH 79.01
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTSH 79.01
2thdr does anyone in here trade with a fixed percent stop?
Ricky Yes. 1%.
DavidBer anyone trading efut has bigger brass testicles than I do
2thdr how's that working for you?
Cale me too Ricky, 2thdr I use 1% as a stop
mellowg db it is not the test... it is the tickles
Cale and will sometimes take only 1/2
2thdr on every trade?
Cale I use 1% on every trade
Ricky It works better with my psychy. Get stopped out a little more often but the percentage is of gain or loss is not that much different. I kept track over a while.
Cale i set my alerts as they call them
Cale entry and exit
Cale because sometimes they just move too fast for me to type
Ken-ST Moderator: Those in on RACK long on the swing trade that triggered today, I would suggest a stop at break even
Ken-ST Moderator: at entry
toolhater cale, on the alerts do u trigger orders or just buy/sell?
jvt i got an awesome fill on rack
Cale have have my platform ready to enter and exit
Cale the swing trade JVT?
jvt yea
mellowg AMZN close to stop
Cale Ken looks like this Marking is going down town
Cale nice me too JVT
jvt i got the alert late and got fililed near the lod
2thdr interesting...I'm thinking about using 1% stops to help me psychologically
jvt have a nice profit if it closes me out at 35.30
Ken-ST Moderator: nice jvt
Ken-ST Moderator: wtg
jvt yea but left too close of a stop on ctci on that quick tick down earlier
jvt amzn
Ricky Stopped on AMZN, right?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Scott-ST Moderator: one more cent
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in AMZN
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in AMZN
Scott-ST Moderator: there it is
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in AMZN
DavidBer I hate this commercial!
Ricky Scott, what's the low of the day according to your broker on AMZN?
DavidBer I will not buy a volvo because of that stupid ass commercial!
jvt 39.93 here
Scott-ST Moderator: 39.93
jvt volvo for old people
Scott-ST Moderator: lol jvt
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del gm
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rwalsh ken/scott, i think your stop on ctsh is in wrong box...should be in open short pos
rwalsh scratch that
Ken-ST Moderator: Ty Rwalsh
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: market stilll trading in hte p/d range
djg I love whoever mentioned EFUT thank you thank you thank you
mellowg lol
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Ruben New hod in ctci. Incredible
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Ken-ST Moderator: any questions?
Ruben Ken, how about ride on CTCI?
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Ken-ST Moderator: still in trend
Ken-ST Moderator: on CTCI
Ken-ST Moderator: market is very oversold right now but still in downtrend
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Ken-ST Moderator: on the verge of changing however
Ken-ST Moderator: wb eddi
Ken-ST Moderator: gm c6
eddie thnks
Ruben I have to decide that before it reach 21.46
C6 hi
C6 GM
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bullmarket ken...where do you see CTCI going?
Scott-ST Moderator: CTCI is still in trend. Our Target exit price is 21.43
Ken-ST Moderator: it is currently going sideways under the 20 EMA, setting up for a possible resumption of its trend up
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Scott-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL TYPE B ALERTS
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Scott-ST Moderator: gm C6
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bullmarket CTCI not really moving
Ken-ST Moderator: Any questions?
Ken-ST Moderator: Stoch up, prices abvoe the 5 ema
Scott-ST Moderator: Scanning for type C plays
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Ken-ST Moderator: Is that Pee Wee Herman on CNBC?
Ken-ST Moderator: will wait until the market is overbought and start to scan for Type C shrots
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kami ken what indicator tells you if mkts r over bought or sold?
Ken-ST Moderator: We use Stochastics
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Ken-ST Moderator: on 5 min chart
Ken-ST Moderator: Gang,we strongly suggest that a 5 minute candlestick chart of the SPX be kept open to give you a visual of current market conditions, overlay this chart with 5, 20 and 50 ema and slow stochastics.  You will find that this will help you with your personal daytrading, giving you the “heartbeat” of the market.
kami ok got it
Scott-ST Moderator Yell!
bullmarket CTCI about to be stopped out
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTCI
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTCI
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTCI
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-11]
Jim ugh....ugly day so far.
jvt alright who's bringing in the bad karma...
jvt mkt light i think people gettinig ready for turkey day
bullmarket Hey...I'm in Canada...what day is the market closed....Friday or Monday
Ken-ST Moderator: for which holiday?
bullmarket Thanksgiving....are the markets not closed one of these days
Ken-ST Moderator: Thursday
Ken-ST Moderator: Next Thursday
rwalsh half day on Friday as well.....1pm eastern i believe
jvt i think there's a half day
jvt wednesday might be dead too
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah its a generally slow week on thanksgiving
jvt i was expecting this wk to have more action with option expiration
Cale Chipper
Cale *HUG* Silviia
mellowg she makes my heat palpitate
mellowg heart
mellowg definively not my heat
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Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: stoch still in middle of trend
Scott-ST Moderator: lol Mellow
Scott-ST Moderator: lol Pisani said the day faded
Scott-ST Moderator: I would call it a Tanking
Scott-ST Moderator: jmho
Ken-ST Moderator: very slow day
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Ken-ST Moderator: brb gang
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Ken-ST Moderator: back
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTSH 78.60
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTSH 78.60
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on CTSH 78.60
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTSH
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTSH
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTSH
Scott-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTSH
Scott-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTSH
Scott-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CTSH
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-11]
JP market to overbought for longs right now?
Scott-ST Moderator: I wouldnt really say that at this POINT in time JP
Scott-ST Moderator: the markets are moving up but right in range
JP Opinions on OVTI, XMSR, NVDA and AEOS for HOD plays?
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jvt there's a hottie
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Scott-ST Moderator: AEOS looks okay for a HOD play
ellagero how does WIRE look here for a short?
jvt wire is crazy
Scott-ST Moderator: same with NVDA
Scott-ST Moderator: WIRE is not close to a good Short Entry
Scott-ST Moderator: XMSR might work as a HOD play
ellagero Scott u think this is a squeeze rt now?
Scott-ST Moderator: yes
Scott-ST Moderator: need to see if there was news
JP Fed minutes out today?
Scott-ST Moderator: tomorrow
Scott-ST Moderator: http://premium.econoday.com/calendar/US/EN/New_York/year/2006/month/11/day/14/daily/index.html
Scott-ST Moderator: according to Barrons its Tomorrow at 2:00 est
Scott-ST Moderator: and Thr is CPI and Jobless Claims Report
Scott-ST Moderator: and Trip to Vegas for me [img id=em-10]
jvt trip to vegas?
jvt have fun
Scott-ST Moderator: Traders Expo
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Ken-ST Moderator: Try not to force trades out gang
Ken-ST Moderator: market is sitting in the range of the past few days
jvt anyone have one of these zune
Ken-ST Moderator: makes for very choppy trading conditions
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jvt couldnt they interview someone better at bby
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jy AMZN - what a turnaround
Ken-ST Moderator: entire market ison the rebound
Ken-ST Moderator: off the lows
jvt how do you count this rack
jvt never really stop out
Ken-ST Moderator: in the room I may suggest stops
Ken-ST Moderator: other than the swing trade plan
Ken-ST Moderator: the trade is still in effect
Ken-ST Moderator: play rather
Ken-ST Moderator: but I'll put out caution to some traders who are here that are on the swing trade alert
jvt out rack
jvt since profit hit
Jim rack was a nice play today
jvt the last few swing trades been pretty good
Ken-ST Moderator: ty
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Ken-ST Moderator: scanning for Type C shorts
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for possible Type C Short on CYBX 20.35
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for possible Type C Short on CYBX 20.35
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for possible Type C Short on CYBX 20.35
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
bullmarket Ken...being new and all....is this a typical day or is this consered pretty slow
Ken-ST Moderator: slow
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
Jim cybx?
Elaine CYBX HIT
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short CYBX 20.35
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short CYBX 20.35
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short CYBX 20.35
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry about that, had to reconnect my mouse
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bullmarket What's a good stop Ken...on CYBX - 20.15?
bullmarket I mean....20.55
mellowg sure, the big 3 need incentives... i would too if i could get 'em
Ken-ST Moderator: on type C the hod is the initial
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bullmarket Ken...could you please explain why someone wouldn't initiate atleast a 1.0% - 1.5% stopp on the Type C plays?
bullmarket CYBX seems to be getting hammered?!
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Scott-ST Moderator: back
Scott-ST Moderator: whats cooken
Scott-ST Moderator: ?
Ken-ST Moderator: bullmarket - how do you set a fixed percentage on stocks that vary with its volatility
Ken-ST Moderator: we use MAs and support/resistance areas defined byt he stock
Ken-ST Moderator: and we use market assessment and the time of day to help us determine how tight a stop to play
del do you like cybx short now?
Ken-ST Moderator: still like it
djg EFUT getting destroyed
Ken-ST Moderator: that was a quick drop
Scott-ST Moderator: I need to learn more about EFUT
johnboy have a good evening folks, see you tomorrow
djg wish I was short for that candle
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CYBX
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CYBX
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in CYBX
Ken-ST Moderator: toughest day that I can remember
Ken-ST Moderator: Took a loss on the futures side as well
rwalsh not one of my favorites
Ken-ST Moderator: Market new hod
rwalsh when will this euphoria end?
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-0]
Jim RACK still going up
Scott-ST Moderator: wow where is the fule?
Scott-ST Moderator: S&P500 All time Highs
rwalsh resistance on S&P??
Ken-ST Moderator: New Multi-year highs
JP S&P all time highs are in the 1500's
Scott-ST Moderator: I sit corrected ty JP
rwalsh actually, you said "multi-year" and he said "all-time"; you are both correct
Scott-ST Moderator: 1552.87 is the all time high for the S&P500
JP Scott said all time, Ken said multi-year.
Scott-ST Moderator: I meant year few year high
Scott-ST Moderator: yep Ken was right I was wrong but corrected myself with JP's help
JP Was there some piece of news I missed that is fueling this rally?
rwalsh dont think so, just programmed trading with the new high maybe
Scott-ST Moderator: i cant find any JP
Scott-ST Moderator: anyone else?
Ken-ST Moderator: Gang, the main thing to refrain from is chasing losses
Ken-ST Moderator: You really have to monitor your trading after a big up or down day
Ken-ST Moderator: Make sure to continue wiht the same moneymanagement plan
djg EFUT is crazy
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Scott-ST Moderator: EFUT - eFuture Information Technology Inc. (eFuture) is a provider of integrated software and professional services for manufacturers, distributors, wholesalers, logistics companies and retailers in China's supply chain front market. The Company's customers are centered in the retail, automotive, general household appliance and consumer goods industries. Its solutions are specifically designed to optimize demand processes from finished goods to customer checkout, and to address supply chain management, business processes, decision support, inventory optimization, collaborative planning and forecasting requirements. The Company's software solutions business is enhanced and supported by its consulting services and ongoing maintenance on existing software installations.
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
jy EFUT is a Chinese stock. It went IPO last month at $6. In a month the stock has gone up 700%.
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mellowg rain fade survivor...at a price...
Scott-ST Moderator: WB
Scott-ST Moderator: wb hugger and Mellow
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mellowg ty
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Cancel all Alerts
Ken-ST Moderator: not going to force anything out today
Ken-ST Moderator: any quesitons / comments/
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rwalsh do you have rewind button?
Ken-ST Moderator: it comes in the form of a six pack
Ricky Ken, how did the day go?
rwalsh lol
Ken-ST Moderator: tough day for us
Ken-ST Moderator: I had a losing day in futures as well
Ricky I know. I broke my rule of not trading past 11:00am, and took a hit.
Jim CTCI finally had a nice run up
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
djg back in the morning good day all
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Ken-ST Moderator: have a good one
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Ken-ST Moderator: CTCI new hod
Ken-ST Moderator: arghh
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-11]
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