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********** Good Morning Everyone
********** Tue October 24th 2006
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Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.
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j5: boy we have quite a few picks today
Scott-ST Moderator: earnings
Scott-ST Moderator: lots of Picks and NO Ken yet
allegro_bob: sndk?
j5: so this is it hah? that's what ken's been talking about the whole year
Scott-ST Moderator: SNDK is at the bottom of yesterdays range, my work if it drops more
allegro_bob: right - now it's time to deliver :)
j5: i hear ya scott, you're the man
alex: gm all
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Scott-ST Moderator: gm alex
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Cale gm
Scott-ST Moderator: morning Cale
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2thdr gm
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Newbie gm all..
j5 where's kenny boy
Scott-ST Moderator: not sure
Scott-ST Moderator: I guess I am solo
j5 np scott, you've alreadyproven yourselve b4
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jvtt he's sleeping
jy gm
Scott-ST Moderator: not solo
Scott-ST Moderator: gm jy
j5 how long have you been doing this type of trading?
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Elaine On the Type A (breakout stocks) - are we still looking for 1% - or are they more profitable?
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Scott-ST Moderator: all are 1% Elaine
Elaine k
Scott-ST Moderator: j5, about 5 years
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j5 cool, no wonder you have it down
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conanboxer Good Morning
j5 scott, have you notice any changes over the years on how effective the setups are, ie are they getting worse as more people learn about them?
conanboxer Good Morning
Scott-ST Moderator: I know ken is just running late
Scott-ST Moderator: he will be here
Scott-ST Moderator: morning Conan
j5 goog morning connanboxer
Scott-ST Moderator: j5 I really couldnt say that there has been much of a change
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benbeth gm
j5 well cool that's good, i always worry this system is gonna break down
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jvtt maybe ken thought daylight savings time was this past wkend instead of this upcoming
j5 i can't beleive this economy so many positve earnings, un beleivable
j5 lol jvtt, we'll test that theory in one hour
Scott-ST Moderator: lol jvt
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Scott-ST Moderator: ceco
j5 boy i use to use that without fail on the monday after the change i would always be late for work, lmao
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jvtt ceco cancel?
Ken-ST Moderator: GM All
j5 kenny boy!
Scott-ST Moderator: looks like it jvtt
Scott-ST Moderator: gm Ken
jvtt gm ken
Scott-ST Moderator: was getting worried
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jvtt yawwwwn
j5 np plenty of setups, no need to chase anything
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Elaine looks like CECO already hit ent. pt.
j5 entry and target
jvtt haha
Elaine yeah really
j5 chi chin? lol
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Scott-ST Moderator: yep we will cancel CECO at the bell
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j5 market assesment?
Scott-ST Moderator: lol j5
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johnboy good morning Ken/Scott, everybody
jvtt he's getting his coffee
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Cale ya ken wheres the Market Assesment??
Cale come on man
jvtt or hot milk
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allegro_bob sndk
j5 come on homey where my market assesment boi
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j5 lol j/k
Ken-ST Moderator: ***********Market Assessment**********
Daily Chart: Above the 5 day EMA, Stochastics in uptrend
Hourly Chart: Uptrend with 20 EMA above the 50 EMA
5 min Chart: Uptrend with 20 EMA above the 50 EMA
Overall bias to the market is still to the upside. Futures currently showing a down open of 1 points.
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry
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j5 cool, good trades all
Ken-ST Moderator: Late start to the morning
j5 lol ken, np
prime707 gm
Ken-ST Moderator: Good Trading all
DavidBer Ceco opened below entry
newgurl Good Morning
j5 yep ceco is cancelled
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Ken-ST Moderator: CECO canceled
Newbie cancel CECO right
Ken-ST Moderator: Gapped to low at open
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UCTT 13.26
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UCTT 13.26
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UCTT 13.26
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on ZRAN 14.54
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on ZRAN 14.54
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on ZRAN 14.54
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AMGN 75.44
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AMGN 75.44
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on AMGN 75.44
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on TZOO 39.76
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on TZOO 39.76
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on TZOO 39.76
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UTHR 60.51
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UTHR 60.51
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UTHR 60.51
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allegro_bob 1% sndk
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Newbie alot of action today..
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on NATI 29.92
Scott-ST Moderator: gj bob
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on NATI 29.92
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on NATI 29.92
jvtt nothing is near
Cale nice bob
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on PDSN 10.51
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on PDSN 10.51
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on PDSN 10.51
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on DSPG 19.95
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on DSPG 19.95
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on DSPG 19.95
Ken-ST Moderator: DSPG is close
Ken-ST Moderator: ZRAN is close
Cale all the traps have been set
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DavidBer And what about SNDK cale?
Newbie did you today Cale?
Newbie Short?
Cale not sure about that one today
Cale i am thinking no on a short
Ken-ST Moderator: DSPG is close
allegro_bob probably right on sndk - my problem is that I don't know any better
DavidBer big spread on dspg
Cale I am thinking of going long on SNDK as a swing trade
Ken-ST Moderator: looks to be on thin side. be aware gang on DSPG
Ken-ST Moderator: UTHR is approaching
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Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy UTHR 60.51
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy UTHR 60.51
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy UTHR 60.51
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Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short DSPG 19.95
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short DSPG 19.95
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short DSPG 19.95
Newbie wow missed out on both..
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Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in DSPG
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in DSPG
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in DSPG
j5 yeah missed that
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on UTHR 59.89
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on UTHR 59.89
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on UTHR 59.89
Newbie just say your commercial..
Newbie saw*
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Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy NATI 29.92
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy NATI 29.92
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy NATI 29.92
Newbie NATI>>
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NATI 29.19
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NATI 29.19
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NATI 29.19
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry UTHR
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry UTHR
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry UTHR
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Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UTHR
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UTHR
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UTHR
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j5 nice :)
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short ZRAN 15.54
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short ZRAN 15.54
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short ZRAN 15.54
Ken-ST Moderator: UTHR on fire
Cale no Ken is on Fire
Newbie missed the first 2.. man would have been day
Newbie done..
johnboy anyone having chart issues with DAS?
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Ken-ST Moderator: what kind jb?
JP Like what JB.....mine is fine.
johnboy only todays candles are visible
johnboy JP, what version are you using?
johnboy I'm 1.54.0.2
JP 1.51
johnboy hmmm
johnboy thanks
JP You are right though, when I click on the left side of my 1 minute charts to try and expand them into yesterdays time table, I get no response.
johnboy ok, so it's not just me........thanks
Ken-ST Moderator: i dont get that
Ken-ST Moderator: looks good here
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 12.54
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 12.54
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 12.54
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Scott-ST Moderator: boy if NATI hits thats goingto be handsome
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in ZRAN
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in ZRAN
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in ZRAN
j5 no shorts uctt :(
Gantra steve, what slippage you get on DSPG?
jvtt i got bad slippage on it
jvtt only made like .4 %
c6 is it to late to get in on dspg?
ellagero Ken..can you exlain why your entry for zran on the left was one value and the one you listed in red a few minutes ago above was like 15.54 or something
Gantra i got .08 cents filled at 19.87
Steve Gantra, partial fill at 19.92
c6 yep
DavidBer ellagero - it's called typo
Gantra i'm still in it.
allegro_bob did you play sndk long cale?
Scott-ST Moderator: my bad elleagero
Scott-ST Moderator: miss typed
Ken-ST Moderator: Scott is fixing that
Cale yep
ellagero np
Scott-ST Moderator: thanks for the eyes
Ken-ST Moderator: wow, didnt realize we have an allegro and an ellagero
Ken-ST Moderator: And I dont know what either of them mean
DavidBer Yeah - someone fix nati please
j5 1.03, 1.01? nice one scotty is that how you're getting better averages than ken
DavidBer the quotes I am getting must be a typo
Ken-ST Moderator: its nearing target right now
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: doh
j5 lmao hahahaha
Ken-ST Moderator: lets see how it reacts around the 5 ema
Ken-ST Moderator: its catching up now
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Ken-ST Moderator: gm circa
jvtt big stop for nati someone got to tell it to go hehe
allegro_bob uthr new hod
circa63 gm
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NATI 29.29
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NATI 29.29
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NATI 29.29
DavidBer ohh big move there big boy - 10 cents.
Ken-ST Moderator: UTHR new hod
Ken-ST Moderator: Im sure you would take .10 more to the upside on profits
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on TZOO 37.74
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on TZOO 37.74
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on TZOO 37.74
Scott-ST Moderator: C
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DavidBer r
Cale m
allegro_bob HIND-SITE: Should've left 1/2 in uthr
DavidBer Can I buy a vowel please, I would like an A please.
Cale lol me too Bob :(
Cale oh well
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Newbie I missed out in it :(
Ken-ST Moderator: ZRAN new lod
allegro_bob how many times will it break down?
jvtt i missed both uthr and zran
jvtt bad fill on dspg and got this nati with ease
Cale i missed ZRAN also
jvtt it filled me on nati on the way down hehe
Ken-ST Moderator: could you not get filled with JVT either?
Ken-ST Moderator: but got filled with jvtt with ease?
Ken-ST Moderator: lol, jk
Ken-ST Moderator: im still sleeping
jvtt this nati is hugging the 5ema on the wrong side
allegro_bob me too - took the family to the theme park for halloween last nite ---
Ken-ST Moderator: its still testing there
j5 come on nati, cale!
Ken-ST Moderator: we have our stop there at the tightest possible area
allegro_bob mnst
Cale crossess his fingers and toes
jvtt i got fill on mnst
allegro_bob breakouts to the left of me --- breakouts to the right of me
allegro_bob gj jvtt
Cale as long as there is no breakout on top of you
allegro_bob saw it too late
jvtt not now earlier at 41
jvtt yea had to go find my own stocks when i missed both our winning ones here
allegro_bob way to hang in there - I get out tooooo soon
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Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in NATI
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in NATI
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in NATI
jvtt oh nati
jvtt that hurt
j5 oh boy that hurt
Ken-ST Moderator: uctt is close
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on UCTT 13.26
Newbie OUCH...
prime707 WHAT THE HELL....
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j5 boy that's a good reason not to walk away from the station
prime707 I hate to trade stocks that have NO VOL. in them
DavidBer I hugged my wife, she said to get out earlier and I did - she is awesome - much better than blk's mom
j5 lol
j5 man that was nuts
prime707 gave it all back...........
prime707 there was no one there at those levels
prime707 we killed the stock
prime707 next time
Ken-ST Moderator: TZOO is close
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on NFLX 26.89
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on NFLX 26.89
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on NFLX 26.89
Steve Gantra, now that I have a minute, if you got .08 slip w/ at .20 target, that's 40% of target, are you taking a 0.60% pft target or trying to make up the .08 on the exit?
j5 tzoo
JP Ken, What kind of stop do you see for TZOO, if it triggers?
Gantra steve, i was making it up by moving my target so i still get 1%. sadly i ended up taking on loss on that one.
Ken-ST Moderator: Low of this pullback
JP I don't like all the congestion in this area back in May but if the stop is pretty tight, I may play it.
j5 wow it dropped out of its own weight
j5 that's why i don't rush entries anymore
j5 btw, did i tell you guys that i hate nati
Ken-ST Moderator: pos
Newbie me to J5
Ken-ST Moderator: NFLX is close
Scott-ST Moderator: dont hate the playa hate the game
Cale taking 1.5% on SNDK
Ken-ST Moderator: gj Cale
Scott-ST Moderator: gj Cale
j5 are you two brothers?
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
j5 hehe, lol
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on PDSN 10.24
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on PDSN 10.24
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on PDSN 10.24
Newbie gj Cale
Cale TY GUYS
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Ken-ST Moderator: NFLX is close
Scott-ST Moderator: WB
prime707 nati??????????
prime707 this is were i need to brk even
Newbie OH Snap
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DavidBer nati is so thirty minutes ago
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Cale lol DavidBer
Ken-ST Moderator: lol david
j5 STAY THE COURSE
prime707 i no.........
prime707 still on my screan
johnboy CUT AND RUN
Ken-ST Moderator: focus on the future
Ken-ST Moderator: NFLX is close
j5 yeah, is back up get out
prime707 is more of chop n run']
Cale Ken is NFLX getting close?
DavidBer NO SHORTS at fidelity on NFLX :(
prime707 me 2
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Scott-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short NFLX 26.89
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short NFLX 26.89
j5 filled
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short NFLX 26.89
Scott-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short NFLX 26.89
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short NFLX 26.89
Scott-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short NFLX 26.89
Newbie No short inventory for me..:(
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NFLX 27.37
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NFLX 27.37
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on NFLX 27.37
allegro_bob there goes rimm
Scott-ST Moderator: WOW ALL TIME HIGH FOR RIMM
Scott-ST Moderator: look at that monkey run
Scott-ST Moderator: Look at that stock Run
DavidBer still nothing beats LMRA about 2 weeks ago
allegro_bob I'm finding all these TOO LATE :(
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Scott-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in RIMM 112.80
Scott-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in RIMM 112.80
Scott-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in RIMM 112.80
Scott-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in RIMM 112.80
Ken-ST Moderator: lmao
Cale huh
allegro_bob huh??
jvtt when was rimm added
Cale LMAO
Cale nice
Ken-ST Moderator: scott trying to be funny
Cale man look at rimm
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DavidBer scott - humor - not funny - don't quit your day job
allegro_bob should've at 10:20
Scott-ST Moderator: lol okay DavidBer
Gantra RIMM better not sneak into the table as a 1% winner later in the day....
Ken-ST Moderator: UTHR new hod
DavidBer haha gantra - scott would do that!
Cale lol
Ricky I missed the joke on RIMM, can anyone explain?
Scott-ST Moderator: me, i would do that, NO
Newbie Look a it..
DavidBer ricky don't worry - you are not missing much
Scott-ST Moderator: sorry Ricky, it just took off like there was no tomorrow
Scott-ST Moderator: nope you didnt miss anything
Scott-ST Moderator: was really messing with Ken
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Ricky That's like pulling a fire alarm in the school hall.
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Ricky When there's no fire.
Ricky The chachings are a sacred institution.
Ricky Don't abuse.
Ken-ST Moderator: slap on the wrist for scott
DavidBer wait ken - didn't you and scott go on a brokeback vacation together? Isn't a slap on the buttocks then?
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j5 now just where is rimm, i dont see it anywhere??
Ken-ST Moderator: RSPG nice dip over the past few weeks
Ken-ST Moderator: good opportunity to scale in on those
j5 scale in on rspg?
JQ Great Scott I was swinging Rimm 1.5% great timing
Ken-ST Moderator: on long term plays, yes scale in on dips
Ken-ST Moderator: that is how to play those stocks
j5 ic ok
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on AMGN 74.53
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on AMGN 74.53
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on AMGN 74.53
Ken-ST Moderator: Intraday Trend is Sideways to Down
Ken-ST Moderator: no trigger on AMGN yet gang
Gantra huh?
Ricky Why not?
ellagero Ken when you say intraday trend...do you usually refer to stock or market
allegro_bob i show low 74.52
Ken-ST Moderator: the market ella
jvtt oh crap
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah but the bid never got down there
Ricky It triggered for me.
Ken-ST Moderator: the stock was still at 74.59 area
Steve ken, I got triggered - stop at 74.88 ?
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Gantra strange. my settings are only if the price is between the bid and ask and trades on the tape
Ken-ST Moderator: 75.01
jvtt anyone see nati
jvtt crapper
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry NFLX
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry NFLX
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop to entry NFLX
Steve Stopped out on NFLX, anyone else?
Ricky Yep.
jvtt yep
Cale not yet
jvtt and stuc in amgn :-(
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Ken-ST Moderator: thats odd because the stock never really got there
jvtt doesnt he look constipated
Steve got there for me, so did amgn - not happy !!!
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
prime707 me to i think will be ok
Ken-ST Moderator: did you have stop orders on those?
Steve IT'S NOT FAIR - WHINNNNNEEEEEEE
Steve yep, stop orders
Ken-ST Moderator: Is it set for two condiitions?
prime707 if it break 70 i think it can go
Gantra steve, i got stopped on NFLX too.
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: bid/offer AND trade?
ellagero Ken or Scott...i'm thinking about starting to trade the semiconductor index..could you tell me what its tracking stock is..
jvtt it's TS
Ken-ST Moderator: SMH
jvtt conspiracy i tell u
Steve Gantra, I'm using single tick, what are you using?
Gantra Ken, probably better for you to specify the price when you say "at entry", since the entry price is different for everyone because of slippage.
prime707 almost
jvtt well i usually use entry price as what ken set at
Ken-ST Moderator: what do you mean Gantra?
Gantra Steve, i'm using Single Trade Tick within NBBO
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prime707 it wants to it..what ur thoufght
prime707 holding
Ken-ST Moderator: the entry price is noted on the tables
prime707 i got trigger on amgn
Steve That's interesting, if your using tick within NBBO, then (techincally) there was a print between b/a and Ken should have showed it as triggered - not sure what's up
Ricky Ken, don't mean to be a crybaby, but both of my brokers show AMGN at 74.52 for the low. How is it that it didn't trigger?
Gantra Ken, you specify "At entry" for moving the stop, which is fine. But you are refering to the theoretical entry on the table to the left. Most people probably aren't getting it at that price. By say at entry and listing the price, you are reminding everyone that the entry price is YOUR price and not ours.
Ken-ST Moderator: because the bid never got donw there RIcky
Ken-ST Moderator: you cant rely on Level I quotes
Ken-ST Moderator: trades happen outside the market
Ken-ST Moderator: all the time
Ken-ST Moderator: it doesnt mean the support or resistance is gone because of those trades outside the market
Gantra Steve, odd, i agree
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Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in NFLX Breakeven
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in NFLX Breakeven
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in NFLX Breakeven
jvtt that time for sure nflx is even
Ken-ST Moderator: the buy orders were still there above the breakout price, therefore the support had been violated
Cale lol jvt
Cale I am the cry baby :(
Cale i need a tissue
Cale damn break even
Gantra steve, it's possible the tracking program ken uses is wrong or it is possible that tradestation is wrong.
Steve Look at what this dang trading has reduced us to - where arguing over 1 cent :)
j5 man it got to .65 grr i hate that
prime707 lehm let it go it need to break here
j5 actually i don't care about that, that much, what i hate is nati
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Cale me too j5
prime707 any thought on this amgn
Cale but thats day trading
DavidBer cancel all type b alerts?
Steve If trades occur outside the market, then TS may know about and Ken's system doesn't and vice versa
Scott-ST Moderator: Yep
j5 nah, this morning is cursed, and too close to 11am
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Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy TZOO 39.76
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy TZOO 39.76
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy TZOO 39.76
jvtt what's that fo
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Ken-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL TYPE B ALERTS
kevin looks like tzoo just trigered
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DavidBer Ken fixes Scott's failure at macros
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on TZOO 39.05
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on TZOO 39.05
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on TZOO 39.05
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allegro_bob so to clarify - short trigger on bid and longs trigger on ask?
Ken-ST Moderator: Right
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ella (ellagero) Ken- is the stop on TZOO unusually far from entry?
jvtt tzoo conf call ongoing
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j5 oh boy
Ken-ST Moderator: TZOO is a volatile stock
Ken-ST Moderator: so the stop is often wide
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Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on TZOO 39.19
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on TZOO 39.19
Ken-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on TZOO 39.19
Steve Ken, new stop on AMGN at 74.88 ?
jvtt has don been in the room as of late
jvtt i moved my amgn to there
Ken-ST Moderator: yes that would be a tighter area
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j5 tzoo still on call?
Scott-ST Moderator: on call?
Scott-ST Moderator: TZOO is still an open
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Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in TZOO
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in TZOO
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in TZOO
j5 boy one of those days...
Elaine omg onTZOO - ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah its a heartbreaker
Elaine remind me not to trade that one again...geez.
Cale 2 loosers 3 Winners and 1 breakeven still not too bad of a day
Elaine oh that's good..i'm in the hole
j5 im not worried about it, what really got me offgouard was the dam $@%@$ nati slippage, not even the stop i didn't worry about
Newbie If I hit those first 2 winners I would feel alot better..
Ken-ST Moderator: dont chase losers
Ken-ST Moderator: keep to the same money management
Steve TZOO was like ENDP last week, I don't like those stocks that gap up and we fill at top of candle
Ken-ST Moderator: after a big winning day or losing day you really have to monitor yoru trading
Cale Wish I wouldhave stayed in SNDK
j5 i know ken, i mean i was using money management on nati, and ended losing 3x my stop loss, oh well enoguh, just seems unusual
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j5 ken, i hear you on the winning days also, many times after having big winning days, end up losing big a few days after,
Ken-ST Moderator: yes unusual
Ken-ST Moderator: but, still you have get back to basics and not alter the amount of capital you commit
j5 hehe, yes, do i know that....
Ken-ST Moderator: day traders love to look at results on a daily basis, but you really have to look at your actions over a period of time
Ken-ST Moderator: right j5
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Ken-ST Moderator: after a big winning day, traders often commit more capital to their trades on days that follow. And when one loser comes in, they get accustommed to the larger size. and keep chasing
j5 you're right, i mean you know you're right, and beleive me, i know you're right either, hehe, learned that the hard way
Ken-ST Moderator: so after large up days or down days, you really have to monitor your trading
Scott-ST Moderator: remove all emotion!!
j5 meant, i know you're right *also*
Scott-ST Moderator: its the hardest thing to do when day trading
jvtt what emotions it's just trading
j5 yep, im getting pretty good at emotion, just don't like surprises, like stop loss 3x what i had it at, but i guess that's another lesson: "It is possible"
Ken-ST Moderator: scanning for Type C shorts
j5 ok guys, thanks for the winners, at least they dampered some of the fall, see you all tomorrow, good trades
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for possible Type C Short on SCHN 33.84
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for possible Type C Short on SCHN 33.84
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for possible Type C Short on SCHN 33.84
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Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE C Trade (Top). Consider Short SCHN 33.84
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE C Trade (Top). Consider Short SCHN 33.84
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE C Trade (Top). Consider Short SCHN 33.84
Gantra i'm out amgn. what a fun ride. lol
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry to hear Gantra
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
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Ken-ST Moderator: any questions?
ofek Hi Ken
Ken-ST Moderator: Jessica Simpson looks different on CNBC
jvtt lool
Scott-ST Moderator: doh missed Jessica
Scott-ST Moderator: thats okay she will be home here in a bit
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Steve Ken, why do you initiate Type C trades during lunch hour ?
Ken-ST Moderator: because Type Cs are countertrend plays. Countertrends run rampant during the lunch period
Steve and thus they tend to have tighter stops like SCHN ?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes
Steve thx
Ken-ST Moderator: np
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Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in SCHN
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in SCHN
Ken-ST Moderator: STOPPED Consider exit in SCHN
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Newbie I'm done.. :(
Ken-ST Moderator: ok newbie. Dont chase. thThe market is in a tight range. and worst yet in the p/d range
jvtt :(
Ken-ST Moderator: there will be better days
jvtt i knew i should of constantly try to sign in with jvt
jvtt double ts giving me double pain
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Cale The sun will come up tomorrow, you can bet your bottom dollar
jvtt have to blame it on ur server......it said someone already logged in with that name
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb ofek
Scott-ST Moderator: try again jvt
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ofek thnks internet
ofek unfriendly
Scott-ST Moderator: wb
ofek thx
Newbie Bye guys see you tommarrow..
Ken-ST Moderator: have a good one Newbie
Ken-ST Moderator: take care
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Cale later newbie
jvt what would be nice is if mkt turns red
Ken-ST Moderator: you short on something?
jvt yea on quite a few things
jvt hpq, joyg
Ken-ST Moderator: I have an aggressive short position on the futures right now
jvt is that good for me ?
jvt hehe
Ken-ST Moderator: we'll see
Ken-ST Moderator: Naz new lod
jvt i'm tired of these up days and new dow highs
Ken-ST Moderator: its very susceptible to the downside no doubt
Ken-ST Moderator: but the trend has been up for somethime
Ken-ST Moderator: it is still up
Scott-ST Moderator: I am sorry JVT, I will see what I can do...
johnboy thanks Scott........my idle speed in my car needs adjusting.......but it's raining out.....so could you go take a look at it
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Ken-ST Moderator: lol
johnboy so, it's fed day tomorrow?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes
johnboy stay the course......markets go up big?
johnboy raise interest rates.......markets go up
johnboy lower interest rates..........markets go up?
johnboy what is the consensus
johnboy my vote is stay the course
conanboxer Yes.stay the course but with hawkish comments..that
conanboxer that's what they have been saying all morning
conanboxer No interest hike before election
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johnboy since I found the A-Team on morning cable, I'm watching less CNBC
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Ken-ST Moderator: haha
Ken-ST Moderator: hi 888
johnboy the girl in the A-Team kind of looks like Erin
888 hi all
johnboy hey 888
Cale Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until
you hear them speak.
Cale He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
Cale what A-Team ?
johnboy what do you mean, what A-Team?
johnboy they are a staple of 80's Americana
Ken-ST Moderator: I pitty the fool who doesnt know hte A-Team
johnboy legends
Ken-ST Moderator: that and Chips
jvt i pity tthe foo haha
Scott-ST Moderator: Chips
Scott-ST Moderator: I remember that show
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johnboy I guess B.A. doesn't like George W.: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
B.A. Baracus: I pity the fool who goes out tryin' a' take over da world, then runs home cryin' to his momma!
jvt they have a family guy edition with teh A team
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Ken-ST Moderator: lmao
Scott-ST Moderator: lol Johnboy
johnboy UCTT close to LOD
johnboy fwiw
Ken-ST Moderator: if we can get a little consolidation on it, we'll consider issuing it
bearrally who is ba?
Ken-ST Moderator: Baracus?
JP Mr. T
bearrally who is ba baracus?
Scott-ST Moderator: Hey Bear
bearrally what's up Scott
bearrally shorted goog at the close yesterday
Scott-ST Moderator: just waking up from my nap
Scott-ST Moderator: nice!
bearrally got cream from cme straddle
bearrally :(
jvt is schn still open?
bearrally jy, do you offer any trainning?
jvt or left chart not updated
Scott-ST Moderator: you shorted it at 480+ ?
bearrally 481ish
Scott-ST Moderator: nope jvt
Scott-ST Moderator: I will update it now, ty
bearrally gm 52 weeks high?
jvt np
bearrally what happen to the bk?
bearrally freaking wallstreet crooks
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Ken-ST Moderator: hey bear, when did you sneak in?
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 12.54
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 12.54
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on UCTT 12.54
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Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on RADN 9.99
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on RADN 9.99
Ken-ST Moderator: Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on RADN 9.99
Ken-ST Moderator: Ok gang,
Ken-ST Moderator: RADN inital stop will be 10.17 if triggered
Ken-ST Moderator: UCTT will be 12.84 if triggered on the stop
Ken-ST Moderator: I need to step away for a few minutes
Ken-ST Moderator: brb
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DavidBer Ok which one of you has the 5800 shares of RADN ready to buy @ 10.01?
DavidBer There has been 8k shares traded since ken mentioned it.
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb prime
Ken-ST Moderator: back
Ken-ST Moderator: nothing has triggered
Ken-ST Moderator: UCTT is close and looking handsome
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prime707 hey..
Ken-ST Moderator: market contiues in a range
jvt is there a fed meeting today?
Ken-ST Moderator: They are meeting today but reporting their decision tomorrow
Ken-ST Moderator: action really slowed down
jvt anyone watching this tzoo
jvt pretty big and long consolidation
Ken-ST Moderator: yup
Steve Ken, is there a reason you didn't trade AMTD today?
Ken-ST Moderator: no, when did you notice it?
Ken-ST Moderator: Its a good setup
Ken-ST Moderator: 15.78 was the breakout level after lunch
Steve yep, too late now
jvt out tzoo phew
Ken-ST Moderator: were you long?
jvt yea tried to scalp a few times on that retrace
Ken-ST Moderator: UCTT is close
jvt it bounced off the ma50 first time
jvt and 2nd time....bad sell bad sell
jvt these are some big prints in tzoo
Ken-ST Moderator: too bad its still in a range
Ken-ST Moderator: UCTT is close
jvt yea i'm waiting that stock is one volitile stock
jvt uctt is close
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Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UCTT 12.54
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UCTT 12.54
Ken-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UCTT 12.54
Scott-ST Moderator: TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short UTCC 12.54
Scott-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on UTCC 12.81
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Scott-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on UTCC 12.81
Scott-ST Moderator: UPDATE: Moving stop on UTCC 12.81
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Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UCTT
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UCTT
Ken-ST Moderator: 1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in UCTT
jvt that's what i like to hear
jvt cha ching
Cale nice!!!!
jy that's nice
Cale ty Ken/Scott!!!
JQ BLING
Cale love the bling!!
Ken-ST Moderator: GJ
jvt where's steve and gantra
jvt or anyone who uses TS
JQ you still the dingdong bling
Cale Sweet!!!
Gantra JVT, what up?
jvt do u ever get executed on orders in TS that you thought u canceled
Gantra i do because of the OSO. I keep forgetting to turn that off if i manually put an order in or if i use the "close position" button.
Steve i'm back, I was busy
Scott-ST Moderator: WB Steve
Steve Similar to Gantra, only if I forget to cancel an order that had been placed earlier in the day
jvt my god first time today i have orders coming up all over the place
Gantra lol
jvt just had it again with tzoo but i'm complaining
Gantra that's a tradestation "feature"
jvt i'm not complaining if i'm green on the trade
jvt 3rd time tzoo bounced off that ma
Steve It's actually nice sometimes, I had my strategy set to short UCTT, it filled order and exited for a profit. I was busy with other things and didn't even notice the trade. Wish it always happened like that !!!
Ken-ST Moderator: nice steve
jvt yea i usually always do it like that but not sure why there were other orders in
Ken-ST Moderator: Ok gang, I am logging out here
Ken-ST Moderator: I will see you all tomorrow
Scott-ST Moderator: Take Care Ken
Ken-ST Moderator: Scott will take you to the close
Scott-ST Moderator: thanks for joining us this am
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Elaine looks like CECO is below the ent. pt. already
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jvt later ken
jvt elaine? i think ceco was cancel since morning
Scott-ST Moderator: yep
prime707 THKS FOR THE UCTT MADE BACK 1/2 OF WHAT I LOST
Scott-ST Moderator: nice Prime
jvt yea i wish i made back half hehe
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hiphugger i got terrible fill on UCTT with Schwab---12.42----did anybody get close to 12.54 ??
jvt there's hope though i'm swinging a few positions
Cale got 6000 shares at 12.53
Elaine $12.51
prime707 U APLAYER
prime707 CALE
jvt i got it at 12.54
Cale lol i thought you meant Elaine
Cale lol
Elaine I have a question...do most of ya'll put your sell orders in right away - calculating your 1% profit..?
Cale nice JVT
Elaine or buy if it is a short
jvt not 6k though
prime707 I NEED ONE MORE TRADE iM THINKING RIMM LONG TO PUSH TO THE HIGHT
Cale yep I have mine all set at %1 if i get out at 100%
prime707 O IT'S NOTGOOG
hiphugger my 2400 shares took 3 min. to fill, in partials-------how did your orders go---- market or limit ?
Cale other wise I just do it manualy
prime707 UCTT COULD IT FILL THE GAP
Elaine manually is the way I have been doing it....but such bad fills
Elaine I never get the 1%
Scott-ST Moderator: looks like it Prime
jvt i put limit and give it about 5 cents
Steve hiphugger, your problem is Schwab
Elaine oh ok jvt - tx. I'll try that
Steve Limit orders w/ 0.05 past trigger
jvt especially on something like that since u only want 12 cents
prime707 WANT TO PLAY IT BUT DONT WANT TO GET SHORT SQUZ
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
Scott-ST Moderator: hey Prime, can you not use all CAPS all the time?
Scott-ST Moderator: all caps = shouting
prime707 just change it
jvt maybe he's old and cant read it scott
jvt or maybe he wants you and ken to be able to read it ;-)
prime707 i have hot keys and i use it sorrrrry
Steve jvt, what I can't hear you
jvt so if i go to trademgr than i should see what orders i have open?
jvt hopefully b/c i dont know if i added anymore orders
Steve jvt, just click the Cancel button, it will show your open orders
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Steve But yes, you can also go to trademanager
prime707 any one in uctt
Gantra JVT, and be careful about if any are GTC, as those can disappear the next day. YOu can control the date range you display the open orders for.
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jvt i think i defaulted everything to gtc
Steve jvt, suggestion - your day trading, default everything to Day
jvt tks forgot to do that on oso and oco
jvt my order setting is day
Steve damn details !!!!
Scott-ST Moderator: its all good prime
JQ in the hood
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jvt holding 3 posiitons overnight shouldnt be too bad right
jvt does TS have like a stock scanner
prime707 big dog do it
prime707 im going to take over night \
Steve yes, RadarScreen and put whatever symbols and analysis techniques you want in it
jvt i need a TS class hehe
Steve RadarScreen is very powerful, it's basically like a spreadsheet w/ your stocks in each row and your analysis techniques in each column. You can have multiple analysis techniques that check for things like new HOD/LOD, or Gap Up/Down from prior day, etc...
Cale TS = TradeStation?
Steve yes
Gantra I really don't think of radarscreen as a scanner or screener. I think of it as a tabular analyzer that works alot like the charts. If you need something that searches the entire universe of stocks for certain conditions or setups, Radarscreen is not the solution.
jvt radarscreen is that the TS quotes window?
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Steve Gantra, agreed to the extent that you can't search whole universe (8000+ stocks), but if you use a subset such as NASD stocks > $10 and Vol > 250,000 you get a managable list
Steve jvt, what do you mean by quotes window?
jvt where do i go to add radarscreen
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Steve On the main toolbar, run your cursor over each icon, look for RadarScreen and click
Steve Do you see it?
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jvt nope trying to use their help
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Gantra JVT, just goto File - New- WIndow - Radarscreen
Steve click on View/Toolbars and select 'Tools & EL Shortcuts'
Steve or what Gantra said
jvt maybe i didnt add that feature
Steve I don't think it's a feature you add, it comes defaulted (I think)
jvt nope not added but i think i meet hte requirements duhhh
jvt now it's added thanks
johnboy thanks for the day Ken/Scott/everybody.......see y'all in the am
Steve What options do you see when you click File/New/Window ?
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Steve There's alot to it, go thru the TS help
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Scott-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL ALERTS
jvt basket order, browser, chart anaylysis, hot list, market depth, matrix, news, optionstatin, quotes, research, time and sales, trade mgr,
JQ ty
Steve jvt, call TS, after OptionStation you should see RadarScreen and then Research
Scott-ST Moderator: any last questions for the day?
JQ Laters Great Gandi Scott I am out peace love bling bling
Scott-ST Moderator: later
jvt i just added online thanks
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Steve good day all
Scott-ST Moderator: later Steve
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