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09/05/06 Chat Session



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********** Good Morning Everyone
********** Thr Sept 7th 2006
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Scott-ST Moderator: gm j5
j5 gm scott
Ken-ST Moderator: Overall bias on the market is still to the upside, but we do note several short term factors that are giving warning signs to a possible change in the Hourly trend. So be advised that while the overall trend is up, we may be heading into a new hourly downtrend
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Amlo gm to all
tripx Lets ROLL!!!
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Cale Good Trades Everyone
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JohnnyQwest $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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alex gm all
Ken-ST Moderator: I'll look at those Dennis, ty
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]PCAR 53.15[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]PCAR 53.15[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]PCAR 53.15[/b]
dennis np
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]FLOW 10.59[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]FLOW 10.59[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]FLOW 10.59[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: PALM still in range
Ken-ST Moderator: AMD as well
Ken-ST Moderator: ATYT we will add
Ken-ST Moderator: ty
Ken-ST Moderator: MATK and HITK possible support area below
Cale Nice SNDK DOWN more
DavidBer where is blk? I need his mom back. My house is a mess and need her to come over
Ken-ST Moderator: GFIG is a buy at a new hod, however the spread is too wide
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
JP Caught 2% on JOSB
gd nice
j5 NICE
mellowg gj jp
swoop n1
Ken-ST Moderator: gj JP
DavidBer I knew erin was a loser - she doesn't like football! DOWN DOWN woman, Liz is the goddess
Ken-ST Moderator: I feel ya David
mellowg lol
Cale puke
mellowg for me footbal is like basketball...only the last 10 minutes are pleasant and enjoyable
Ken-ST Moderator: Not if you are betting on it
Ken-ST Moderator: every play is interesting
mellowg but what do i know...i am canadian
mellowg never did once bet on a game...
swoop have a molson mellowg
mellowg yup molson export
allegro_bob matk
DavidBer hockey eh?
DavidBer Or worse, curling?
mellowg now ya talking
mellowg curling...only the toes
j5 wow curling, could never get that one
Ken-ST Moderator: MATK now below the last trend lows
Cale need to watch Cricket sometime
Ken-ST Moderator: watching for a rally/consolidatioin
Cale love Curling
lionel matyk?
trdr45 Mellow what broker do you use ?
mellowg when you get older that name of curling changes to suffleboard
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]HITK 14.11[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]HITK 14.11[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]HITK 14.11[/b]
Cale watched it on the olympics
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 21.53[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 21.53[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 21.53[/b]
mellowg trd etrade for now
Ken-ST Moderator: ATYT testing its 5 ema on 5min now
trdr45 CND side or U.S.
DavidBer anyone able to get matk shortable?
JP none on das
mellowg us
2thdr yes...IB
trdr45 ah
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Ken-ST Moderator: David can you find MATK for DAS?
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j5 HITK stop if triggered?
DavidBer Dunno Ken, I use fidelity and no shares avail
Ken-ST Moderator: ah sorry, meant David at harmon
Ken-ST Moderator: HITK looks wide at 14.61
DavidBer hehe :)
nin hitk spred
nin spread
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ATYT 21.31[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ATYT 21.31[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ATYT 21.31[/b]
Cale La Liz in all red today, the market wil be bear
jvt not really man stocks near atyt is near
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]ATYT 21.31[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]ATYT 21.31[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]ATYT 21.31[/b]
David-Harmon Trading MATK has beeen added to the short list on DAS
Ken-ST Moderator: TX David
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benbeth gm
Scott-ST Moderator: MORNING BenBeth
Scott-ST Moderator: is this Ben or Beth?
DavidBer BenBeth and Beyond?
Ken-ST Moderator: gm benbeth
Ken-ST Moderator: lol ber
Ken-ST Moderator: lmao
jvt stop atyt 21.03?
Ken-ST Moderator: lod
lionel atyt stop 21.03
Scott-ST Moderator: YES
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Scott-ST Moderator: well
Scott-ST Moderator: here we ara again
Scott-ST Moderator: anyone have a song they would like to sing?
Scott-ST Moderator: its open mic morning
DavidBer Stay awake Scott
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
j5 lol scott
dennis has logged out
momo like watching paint dry this a.m.
JP Hakuna Mat-ata....what a wonderful phrase....
DavidBer So let me tell you my life history . . . 'I was born a poor black child . . ." Anyone remember that quote?
j5 we should do that for happy hour after 5
Scott-ST Moderator: lol JP
Scott-ST Moderator: love that one
DavidBer Cale and BLK are always in happy hour
gd nice poker game on atyt
allegro_bob THE JERK
Cale lol
DavidBer Allegro wins!
Ken-ST Moderator: HITK is close
j5 hey anybody watched Suckers
Cale am happy as SNDK goes down
Cale what game gd?
j5 about selling cars, is a must see
Scott-ST Moderator: can never get enough of Hakuna Mat-ata
momo what channel j5?
Ken-ST Moderator: you just like saying Tatas Scott
j5 its a movie
Cale LOL Ken
j5 about car salesmen, its really funny
momo dvd?
Scott-ST Moderator: LMAO
JP Speaking of Tatas...anyone watching Nip/Tuck?
j5 yeah
j5 yep in dvd
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Cale blk
jvt hitk near
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
jvt triggr
Cale they are picking on us already
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]HITK 14.11[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]HITK 14.11[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]HITK 14.11[/b]
jvt figures
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in[/b] [b]HITK [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in[/b] [b]HITK [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]1% PROFIT HIT. Consider taking some profits in[/b] [b]HITK [/b]
Cale LOVE the fast ones!!!
Cale oh baby!!!!
blk_lbl fast duckets
Cale dig dig dig the $$$$$
allegro_bob quickies!
jvt i wish ATYT was fast hehe
JP MATK ready for a HOD play?
lionel has logged out
mellowg should go back to bed ...missed that one
Ken-ST Moderator: Close but not yet on MATK
Cale mellow dont you have limits set for your orders?
Cale that one was perfect
mellowg tnks for waking me up ken
Cale ty Ken & Scott
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mellowg nope working market
swoop covered AMAT overnite hold +.20
Ken-ST Moderator: it is still under the 5 ema on 5 min
Scott-ST Moderator: GJ Swoop
swoop ty....
nin scott table looks good
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-10]
nin better
mellowg today
allegro_bob just needs a few more closed 1%ers :)
Scott-ST Moderator: yeppers bob
DavidBer yeah, someone scream at the atyt gods
gd Table is not set properly...
DavidBer ahh wrong stock scott - fix the table
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 22.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 22.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 22.51[/b]
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Scott-ST Moderator: WB
Claudia ty
JP What kind of stop do you see for MATK?
JP 21.95?
JohnnyQwest Pigtits
blk_lbl jq you're back
blk_lbl we missed you yest
Ken-ST Moderator: that looks like a good stop JP, gj
JohnnyQwest gm blk
mark I have the high as 22.47, Should 22.48 be the trigger?
Ken-ST Moderator: if it trigger
mark matk
allegro_bob Scott - need to slide that closed 1% to HITK
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]MATK 22.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]MATK 22.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]MATK 22.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop on[/b] [b]MATK 21.95[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop on[/b] [b]MATK 21.95[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop on[/b] [b]MATK 21.95[/b]
Scott-ST Moderator: ty bob
gd aapl strong in a weak market
conanboxer New IPOD coming up next week...so buy now and sell on the announcement
Cale but not SNDK dive dive dive
gd nice
gd C
A
L
E
Cale :)
gd bye bye sndk
Cale bring in the bear
DavidBer ken sure you didn't mean short matk?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]MATK [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]MATK [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]MATK [/b]
jvt oh no
nin ouch
medoo has left the room
2thdr that didn't feel good
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah not sexy
rwalsh gonna take a while to make that one back up
2thdr no kidding
gman ouch...ouch
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DavidBer who said matk at hod to induce ken into putting it up ?
j5 man how i screwed up with hitk, i placed a covered at .95 when it was trading in the .80s, didn't get a chance to fix the order, lost half potential profits
Ken-ST Moderator: take it light this entire week gang
Ken-ST Moderator: nah David, that was not it
Ken-ST Moderator: it was there,just didnt work out
DavidBer Now you tell us halfway through thursday :)
DavidBer Ken I know . . . just teasing
Cale lol David
Cale doh
j5 so next week should be back to normal ken
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: mentioned on Tuesday and Wednesday about playing it conservative
j5 ken, you mentioned it last week alos,
Ken-ST Moderator: alos?
Cale ticker ALOS?
gd alot
Ken-ST Moderator: alos amigos
gd I am sure
Ken-ST Moderator: yes sir
j5 what the heck you guys!!! not ALOS sp but "also"
jvt hahah
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j5 lol
jvt so funny
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: MATK short is still valid
gd lol
Ken-ST Moderator: lets get some of that revenge
jvt matk and atyt looked perfect so perfect imissed out on the hitk
j5 dont talk to me about hitk
gd atyt has a huge poker game on
j5 that was so stupid, as soon as i hit trigger i saw it was trading way lower, grrrrr
JP MATK better hit that LOD trigger.
Cale WTF do you mean gd?
Cale I am missing something
Cale call me a dumbAss
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j5 i know wtf with atyt, this high volumen can be very unpredictable
jvt oil number outs oon
gd lots of shares on the bid and ask side...showing their hands
Cale okay gd ty
Ken-ST Moderator: Show Me Your Ask!!!!
jvt thats me trying to support hehe
gd lol
Cale LOL
Cale Ken is a bit punchy this morning
j5 are you "calling" ken
lionel hitk 13.78?
Cale you go boy
Cale lol j5
gd sndk all over the place today
j5 oh, man, i keep thinking about hitk so stupid aghhh
lionel would you short hitk at 13.78?
Ken-ST Moderator: Its valid lionel
jvt atyt is just frozen
j5 yeah forgetit
j5 wait!
jvt i cant hehe it's my only position i like to look at it
Ken-ST Moderator: PCAR could have some upside at a new hod, but we will not play it goinginto the p/d range
j5 up candle with the market
Ken-ST Moderator: market taking a stab at the 5 ema on 5 min
nin who shorted hitk
gd grmn? lod play?
Ken-ST Moderator: stoch nearly coming up from oversold alrea
Ken-ST Moderator: area
gman pcar hod
gd nice to be out of hitk
annabellab nvda looks nice
Ken-ST Moderator: coming up abovethe 5 ema on that one
JP MATK getting close to LOD.
Ken-ST Moderator: ATYT......Show Me Your Assets!!!!
j5 ken what is up today?
conanboxer I don't see the table ...is it only me?
mellowg i see it
gd me too
gd see it
j5 ic it
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Ken-ST Moderator: what do you mean j5?
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb swoop
trdr45 MATK LOD area
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swoop grrr....hate wireless !!!! lol
j5 ic it , the chart
JP MATK close
j5 oh, not much sounds like got a raise or something, if i didn't know better
j5 oops,
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]MATK 21.53[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]MATK 21.53[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]MATK 21.53[/b]
2thdr stop on matk?
DavidBer GL Guys on that short. None avail for me
jvt me either david
jvt i'll just wait for atyt
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DavidBer jvt - I think we may be dead in the grave waiting on atyt
j5 matk stop
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop on[/b] [b]MATK 22.01[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop on[/b] [b]MATK 22.01[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop on[/b] [b]MATK 22.01[/b]
swoop i think they report today...should move by the close
rdub looks like maybe they reported A.H. yesterday swoop
rdub if you mean ATYT
swoop could be....was going by memory
swoop knew it was this week
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rdub ah, ok ... (check out that AH move yesterday)
Ken-ST Moderator: wb
nm hello
Ken-ST Moderator: market still below the 5 ema, stoch still down
j5 atyt stop?
Ken-ST Moderator: lod
gman matk making me dizzy..up n down..
jvt atyt is making me sleepy
j5 ok, just checking
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Ken-ST Moderator: market making a stab at the 5 ema, stoch nearly coming up from oversold
mlin88 what is the stop for ATYT?
Ken-ST Moderator: nealry breaking hte morning downtrne
gd sndk roller coster ride
Cale ya
Cale but its my swing trade play
gd may the swing be with you...
swoop long AMAT
2thdr getting sick of matk
j5 is gonna give me a heart attack
Cale lol thdr
Cale keep an eye on the overall market trend
Cale blk you awake?
Cale JQ you awake
allegro_bob guess my karma is off today - zigging when I should zag. Guess I'll call it a day - good luck everyone
Cale Scott you awake?
mellowg cya bob
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j5 out atyt at .31
Scott-ST Moderator: yes Cale
j5 now watch it go up
Scott-ST Moderator: break even J5?
j5 yeah
nin lets look for type c
j5 was getting sick of it
Scott-ST Moderator: a bit early for Type C's
j5 scotty make matk go down, pretty pls
JohnnyQwest laters gang
jvt or atyt go up been dozing off here
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mellowg he said go down scott
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gd j5...watch atyt take off now that you are out
mellowg ty
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j5 yeah of course, im doing you guys a favour
Scott-ST Moderator: no no no J5
2thdr I'm out of matk...now it can go down
Cale lol something I woujld say
Cale lol
j5 hah?
Cale about going down
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Intraday Trend is Sideways to Up[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL TYPE B ALERTS
blk_lbl uppity up
blk_lbl beep beep beep
j5 hourly still down, no?
blk_lbl where's the party at?
blk_lbl i'm just now waking up
blk_lbl freaking nyqil
j5 the party is at matk 21.31, meet you guys there
Ken-ST Moderator: sup blk
blk_lbl sup sup
Cale DUDE
blk_lbl you from outta town?
Cale you left me all alone w/ this crowd
Cale OMG
j5 swell
blk_lbl lol
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j5 smashing baby
blk_lbl you can more than hold your own man
Cale lol
blk_lbl pure popyco ck
gman MATK ugly
Ken-ST Moderator: blk did you just say Cales holds his own man?
jy Ken, how's the stoch doing ? Are we oversold ?
blk_lbl lol
blk_lbl i knew that would get a response from you
Ken-ST Moderator: just coming up from oversold
j5 matk is very ugly
blk_lbl good tomes
blk_lbl or times
blk_lbl whichever comes first
Ken-ST Moderator: we broke that morning downtrend with stoch uptrend AND prices above the 5 ema
Cale Led Zep song, good times bad times, you know ihave had my share
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j5 hehe
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j5 i've been rich and i've been poor but let me tell you
j5 ken still downtrend on hourly no?
gd aapl on fire
Ken-ST Moderator: let me check
Ken-ST Moderator: yes j5, Hourly has just gone into a downtrend
gman ken, noticed MATK already down > 20% when we shorted it...is there a lower probability of going down past 20%, therefore lower success rate?
j5 although it seems oversold on hourly
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Scott-ST Moderator: GM the Don
Ken-ST Moderator: not necessarily
Ken-ST Moderator: gm don
the-Don gm Gentlemen
the-Don and ladies
Cale they were just talking about you
the-Don who me?
Ken-ST Moderator: on a longer time frame yes
Ken-ST Moderator: but you have to look at the intraday trends. the longer the trend, the lower the probability
Cale but its okay
blk_lbl everybody be good
blk_lbl the don is here
gd atyt - ready set...
blk_lbl no mishigosh cale
gman ty ken, just wondring
Cale doh okay
blk_lbl or shenanigans
Cale go ATYT go
Cale no shenanigans
Cale lol
the-Don some 1 whistle the godfather tune now
Cale love that word!!!
blk_lbl lol
j5 man should have kept atyt to hedge my matk
blk_lbl you seen supertroopers cale?
jvt beer fest
blk_lbl hey cale "whats that place you like to go eat at with all that silly kitch on the walls?"
blk_lbl "SHENANIGANS?"
blk_lbl "OOOOHHH!"
Cale lol
blk_lbl pistol whip him cap
Cale is that a Resturant?
blk_lbl it's from super troopers
blk_lbl which if you haven't seen it
blk_lbl you have to stop what you are doing
blk_lbl and go watch it right now
the-Don good film
Cale iv seen it but dont remember that
the-Don with the big bugs
blk_lbl team ramrod?
the-Don and that hot chick
j5 love super troopers
blk_lbl you saw beerfest jvt?
the-Don is it not called star troopers?
jvt might go this wkend to watch it
blk_lbl thats another movie
jvt there's a amc back lot here in atlanta u can watch it and drink pitcher of beer
blk_lbl starship troopers
j5 yeah that one
blk_lbl nice nvt that would be sweet
blk_lbl jvt
blk_lbl sorry
jvt np
jvt that and nfl starting this wkend going to be busy wkend for me
j5 i really recomend suckers, i thing all you guys would apreciate it
the-Don any 1 c rdub this morning
Scott-ST Moderator: yep rdub said good morning
Cale then he picked on me
Cale booo hoooo
blk_lbl lol
Cale [b]needs a tissue[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: is it on DVD?
Ken-ST Moderator: like a reality show?
blk_lbl what's that about j5, i think i've heard of that?
j5 its about car salesmen, its really funny
j5 how they squeeze every last dollar of the buyers
blk_lbl oh thats right
j5 its out on dvd, got it from netflix
gd aapl lunch time rally
gd sndk same
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mellowg it has been a while i have not listned to cales booodist chant
j5 yeah on matk pls cale
lionel qqqq HOD
mellowg exactly j5
rwalsh arca selling a lot of shares on ATYT
Ken-ST Moderator: ATYT new hod
jvt new hod
jvt just when i finish making my lunch
mellowg it will help ya digest it jvt
jvt yea but matk really hurt
jvt had to eat in b/c of that haha
mellowg but matk is not making higher highs for a while
j5 btw, in on atyt at 21.35 new hod
j5 i know its after 11 but look like a lot of vol still
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop to entry[/b] [b]ATYT[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop to entry[/b] [b]ATYT[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE: Moving stop to entry[/b] [b]ATYT[/b]
Scott-ST Moderator: Pig doda on Ken
mellowg that was a scary sound...
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gman thouhgt i made a profit on my MATK loss there for one second.
mellowg lol g
Ken-ST Moderator: lol sorry about htat
gman that kaching sound is like a dose of red bull drink for me...
Claudia Ken PALM type c @14.05?
Ken-ST Moderator: some of the factors are there, but the market stoch area near 70
Ken-ST Moderator: way off oversold
gman MATK be nice this time or I will K I C K u.
mellowg don't break your foot for nithing g... patience
mellowg nothing
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gman i know mellow..but let me kick it in the leg just one time..umph .take that!
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
mellowg see it went up...shessshs
gman sorry...hit the wrong leg...let me do it again...on the right leg this time...umph! take that!
mellowg tying up g's legs so he don't kick anymnore
gd matk
gd down...
mellowg that is what gman is yelling about gd
gd in my own world sorry...
gman let me leg go mellow, i cant move..ok..I'll just yell at it...HEY MATK GO DOWN NOW!
mellowg agreed to that ...f@@ MATK
mellowg giving me ulcers
gd nice 5 min chart on aapl
mellowg arhhhhhhhhhhh
gman MATK if u dont go down right now im gonna shove my foot so up your ass youre gonna taste shoe polish!
the-Don ouchh
nm now now gman
mellowg i am short for avg .63 so cannot talk too much
Ken-ST Moderator: MATK just have to set it and forget it
gd So...gman...tell us how you really feel...
Ken-ST Moderator: lol gd
mellowg easy to say Ken...grin
trdr45 true mellow ...grin
trdr45 lol
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah, easier said than done
gman Need to find my book on anger management...cant seem to find it after i lost book on money management.
gd lol
nm lol
mellowg """i 'm so prettty, so very pretty..."
the-Don blk u playing cal
the-Don cal
swoop lol mellowg
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swoop sold AMAT +.20
gd market making a reversal
nm gj swoop
Claudia PALM 1%
gd swooping on profits...
swoop been a good week
Scott-ST Moderator: gj Claudia
j5 famous last words swoop
swoop :)
Ken-ST Moderator: gj
Scott-ST Moderator: SNDK had a nice reverse
gman im hungry..getting something 2 eat..u guys want anything?
swoop tx ken, trying your 1% rule for some trades and see how it works out...
j5 sure gman, what you got
Ken-ST Moderator: its great money management
gd pcar on the move
Ken-ST Moderator: have a good one gman
gman i got fly lise (fried rice) with orange chicken
j5 hey scott get me some coffee man
j5 haha, sure gman can i get it to go
gman MATK be nice now while im eating ...or i wont play with you anymore.
the-Don cree
j5 no way gman, put a braket at least, have you seen the market
gman its on its way j5..
ms Ken are you still doing futures
gman got bracket orders set on both stocks.
lionel somebody could tell me why on the level2 screen for atyt..arca is highlighted in a black box?
j5 that's the ticket
Scott-ST Moderator: gman
j5 black box?
Scott-ST Moderator: w/ sugar and cream?
nin no no here it comes
Cale Cream here please
j5 no, no, no!! how many times scott, just black
Cale on and make it a decaf
the-Don Scott your views on EGIl i know ists a few dollar stock but it moves.....?
mellowg stop on MATK still 22.01
the-Don egil
gman got i scott...make sure 2 get cream from someone else. i already got creamed today with MATK
Scott-ST Moderator: lol
mellowg i hate lunch time...
gd hitk...pulled back
the-Don scott!
the-Don did u read my question
Scott-ST Moderator: Don as a swing trade?
the-Don yes
the-Don and intra
Scott-ST Moderator: nothing is coming up for me
Scott-ST Moderator: let me try a diff platform
Scott-ST Moderator: you sure its EGII?
Scott-ST Moderator: not coming up
the-Don egil
mellowg EGIL
Scott-ST Moderator: ah EGIL
mark Ken or Scott, Any Ideas where we may be able to find a forex day trading chat room?
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Scott-ST Moderator: seems thin
Scott-ST Moderator: Mark i cant think of any right off
trdr45 JOSB testing LOD area
the-Don my CAL doing well today
Scott-ST Moderator: CAL has been good to you hasnt it Don?
the-Don yes
mellowg don.. you are a regular player of cal..what is your setup
the-Don basically follow dow and airline index
Scott-ST Moderator: Searching for Type C's
mellowg ty
Scott-ST Moderator: we call that the C-Scan
the-Don keep an eye on oil
the-Don that influences a lot
mellowg k
the-Don when oil down airline is up
the-Don res sup usually on the $ mark
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mellowg ty don
the-Don wel
gman im back...
j5 ouch
gman oh great im just in time for the beating.
jy Stop on MATK short is 22.01 ?
j5 boy im glad is over
Scott-ST Moderator: the Bid did not hit
Scott-ST Moderator: there it is
Scott-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]MATK[/b]
Scott-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]MATK[/b]
j5 yeah, look at it is pivoting
Scott-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]MATK[/b]
Scott-ST Moderator: [img id=em-9] grrrrrr
j5 oh no!!
jy MATK is going vertical
gman ok..im ready to go bersek now!!
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gman sorry scott, i freaking dropped your coffee after i got stopped out!
j5 ouch were my money go
j5 lol
gd lol
Scott-ST Moderator: sorry Gman
Scott-ST Moderator: need another?
j5 nice green vol on atyt
Cale anyone traading tomorrow?
j5 just 1st hour
j5 wow you guys seeing those upticks on atyt
mellowg ill be here...addict
Cale I am gong to wait and see what today brings
Cale lol mellow
the-Don addicted
gman yeah.scott since most of my trades went sour...you can tell ATYT to do the same..what the heck..
Cale I alwyas mess up on days like those
Cale so I just stay away
j5 cale?
Cale j5?
gd cale? j5?
mellowg cale?j5?gd?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Cale gd? j5?
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for possible Type C Short on[/b] [b]AAPL 72.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for possible Type C Short on[/b] [b]AAPL 72.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for possible Type C Short on[/b] [b]AAPL 72.54[/b]
Claudia Ken NVEC type c @35.41?
gd lol
Cale mellow? gd? j5?
the-Don also played tie mellow
mellowg one has to laugh.... i am so pretty ....so very pretty
the-Don has some straight moves
j5 wth!
Ken-ST Moderator: NVEC, no resistance on daily
Ken-ST Moderator: and in congestion area of yesterday
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Cale Ken how about CAL for a C?
Cale i know its missing a letter and all but....
the-Don lol
j5 aapl stop at hod right?
Ken-ST Moderator: at resistance area on daily,, but will avoid due to intraday congestion area from p/d
Ken-ST Moderator: yes if triggered j5
j5 ok
lionel scott what do you mean by p/d
Ken-ST Moderator: p/d - previous day
lionel ok
jy MATK Type C long 22.11 ?
Ken-ST Moderator: stoch very much overbought, and not good setup for a long right now
2thdr don't say matk
mellowg that takes gumtion jy
jy ty ken
Ken-ST Moderator: yes and furthermore, we may not trade MATK for the rest of the day
the-Don ken u ok u seem very quiet
jy we'll not tradw MATK for the rest of the year. lol
Ken-ST Moderator: I am ok, how about you?
gman how about for the rest of the year.
j5 yeah i hate matk,
j5 lol
j5 well show them right
j5 we'll
lionel is ARCA a market maker?
j5 is an ecn
Ken-ST Moderator: ARCA is an ECN
gman MATK if i see u around around our neighborhood I'm gonna run you over..
j5 a route like inet
lionel ok
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blk_lbl ARCA is the NYSE ECN
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Ken-ST Moderator: anyone else watch Loose Change 911 ?
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j5 i thought that was brut blk
tripx Ken, how do you get the whole movie, I could only get the trailer....
j5 what's brut?
blk_lbl nasdaq
j5 arca nasdaq? right
blk_lbl arca nyse
j5 ok, got ya, and inet?
blk_lbl instinit i think is nasdaq
blk_lbl instinet
Ken-ST Moderator: there is a link that says: Click Here to watch Loose change 2nd edition
j5 ok cool
jvt is it a 1 hr friday?
Ken-ST Moderator: We will be here all day, but strongly suggest just trading the first sessoni
Ken-ST Moderator: session
blk_lbl it wouldn't let me click on it ken, i had to download it through file sharing soft
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j5 boy im in a bad mood, better get out of the way, lol
Scott-ST Moderator: bye jvt
Ken-ST Moderator: really blk? I watched it straight from that link
Ken-ST Moderator: dont let stocks get you down j5
blk_lbl must have been that norton stuff you hate
blk_lbl which by the, how come you don't like it?
blk_lbl by the way
Ken-ST Moderator: really, the outcome of 1 trade or 1 day should not affect you
Scott-ST Moderator: try to keep Emotionless
j5 sure, ken i think is several things not just matk,
Scott-ST Moderator: dont let it get under your skin
Ken-ST Moderator: got you
j5 i hated myself for screwing hitk exit, and then i was almost at my day target, but just kept pushing on, also had plenty of chances to get out close to 0
gman Im mad coz of two things --- MATK and freaking MATK..
gman other that that im fine.
lionel psychological coaching is important too, ths scott
j5 im just upset a bit, i actually managed matk quite well, but bottom line is a good learning experience,
j5 lol
swoop try avast as antivirus, free and catches stuff norton misses also short AMAT 16.59
j5 wow you use norton to screen stocks?
the-Don shorted cal from .75
j5 with antivirius, what?!
Scott-ST Moderator: j5 as long as you learned
swoop saw something about norton earlier, thot you were talking antivirus
2thdr aapl
Ken-ST Moderator: Yes, the pychological aspect of daytrading is very important
Scott-ST Moderator: gl swoop
swoop tx scott
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
j5 boy I'll be cutting people of on the highway today! that's for sure,
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE C Trade (Top). Consider Short[/b] [b]AAPL 72.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE C Trade (Top). Consider Short[/b] [b]AAPL 72.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE C Trade (Top). Consider Short[/b] [b]AAPL 72.54[/b]
mark stop is the hod? Correct?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes mark
Ken-ST Moderator: I can't stress enough how important it is not to get emotional about trading
blk_lbl and i can't stress enough how much i agree with kenneth
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Ken-ST Moderator: its hard not to sound philosophical when i type this out, but oh well
swoop hear hear !
Ken-ST Moderator: You need to have confidence with the trading strategy
mellowg i am not emotional.ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
j5 lol
trdr45 Kenneth knows the frequency
blk_lbl OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM
j5 hahaha
blk_lbl ooooooooooommmmmmmmmm
Cale I AM TOO STREESED TO WORRY ABOUT BEING EMOTIONAL
Ken-ST Moderator: to the point where the ultimate outcome is not in doubt. A confident trader will have no doubt that at the end of 3 months, he will be profitable
Cale ooommmm....
blk_lbl lol
Cale baby oomommm
j5 what's the frequency kenneth?
swoop find your center, align your chakrahs
Ken-ST Moderator: Therefore it doesnt matter what happens on a single day or trade. You learn from each trade, but care not about the outcome
j5 no swoop that's fake, it's all astrological trading
Ken-ST Moderator: You then focus on the moment, Focus on executing your trade perfectly according to your plan
j5 yes master
swoop lol....my moon is in venus...blah blah
blk_lbl what if i focus on drinking my whiskey to the best of my ability?
lionel i do not know if we will make money today but some of your comments gave a good laugh!!
gman ken, have you everr lost 100 % of your trading capital in your years of experience day trading?
blk_lbl come on lets all give ken a hard time
blk_lbl everybody now
j5 lol gman,
blk_lbl one ... two.... three
Cale isnt that what we do all the time??
blk_lbl lol
blk_lbl that's what you do all the time
Cale nothing personal Scott but I miss James
blk_lbl and me too sometimes
Ken-ST Moderator: yes gman, I lost a bundle when i first was doing it
blk_lbl i miss scott
blk_lbl where is he at
j5 atyt stop at .31 right?
blk_lbl james just told me not to drink all the time
blk_lbl glad to have that monkey off my back
blk_lbl lol
gman really? how did you turn it around..what made you successful in the long run?
j5 hes' doing the starbucks run, did you wanted anything also?
blk_lbl now i can drink myself to death
blk_lbl in peaceful harmony
Ken-ST Moderator: learn from my mistakes
Ken-ST Moderator: My mistake was not have a set plan. Money management.
Scott-ST Moderator: none taken Cale
gman what were your mistakes before? strategy, money mgt?
Ken-ST Moderator: as a result of that I was too emotional
blk_lbl i get emotional when i drink
Ken-ST Moderator: without a set writting plan, you are not consistent, and you will lack confidence
gman but did you have the same strategy as you do now?
blk_lbl my trading plan is to drink as much as possible all the time
blk_lbl and i do read it eveery morning
Scott-ST Moderator: anyone know how to extend the wirless access point?
j5 wh i thought type cs where low risk
blk_lbl buy a more powerful AP scott
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Ken-ST Moderator: no gman, I developed it a lot later
mellowg lynksys sell extendors stations
mellowg repeat stations
j5 if you have a computer in the middle, you can get a second wifi router
Scott-ST Moderator: they do?
Amlo Ken, what's the stop on aapl?
Ken-ST Moderator: You have to take each mistake as learning experience
blk_lbl scott just tape some aluminum foil to it
Ken-ST Moderator: hod amlo
j5 yeah, repeaters are probably easier, i don't know th e price
Ken-ST Moderator: That is the only way I learn
gd Ken... how long did it take for you to find your way in stock trading (months)?
Scott-ST Moderator: lol blk already tried that
mellowg yup in their litterature when i got a new standard one...don't know if it works properly tho
blk_lbl i think those repeaters are only like $50
Ken-ST Moderator: and unfortunately I need to trade real money to learn
Ken-ST Moderator: I am terrible at paper trading
gman ken, so did you have a good perfromance with the current strategy before you opened this room?
Ken-ST Moderator: I was the same way with futures
Amlo thxs
Ken-ST Moderator: of course gman, I wouldnt have offered it if not
gman ty, ken...you da man....and scott too..
JP Flow HOD
Ken-ST Moderator: I dabbled in a lot of strategies and indicators before finally coming into this current one
Scott-ST Moderator: good eye JP
Ken-ST Moderator: After all the trials and errors, i ultimately realized that the simple indicator and approach was the best
j5 ken im using atyt stop at .28 is that ok?
Ken-ST Moderator: These strategies are effective because they are built upon the basic fundamentals of technical analysis
Scott-ST Moderator: who used to sell things on ebay?
Scott-ST Moderator: was that Mark?
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah still ok j5
gman I looked at the past 2 or 3 years of performance in this room and it does not look like u had one losing month ever. That's impressive...and thats why i joined too.
Ken-ST Moderator: cool gman
Scott-ST Moderator: J5 we moved the stop to entry
the-Don nice cal keep going
Ken-ST Moderator: just want to add, I did the same thing with Futures when I first started
Ken-ST Moderator: I got toasted
j5 yeah scott, to .31 right, I thought i give it some wigle room at .29 or .28
Scott-ST Moderator: sure j5
gman i just need to shake off this temp losses out of my memory banks so as not to screw up my determination.
gman and confidence
Scott-ST Moderator: 9/11 under siege movie on ABC
trdr45 so Ken because of the rules you cant trade these stocks but do you trade others during the day?
Ken-ST Moderator: gman, get to know the strategies and the rationale behind our decisions
j5 boy i had a terrible loss last month, it affected me for over a week, but great learning experience
Ken-ST Moderator: trdr, I only trade the futures now
trdr45 ah ok
Ken-ST Moderator: I have no time to trade the equities in the am even if I could . Would not be able to run this room
Ken-ST Moderator: But would only trade the first hour if I did
trdr45 yes makes sense
trdr45 oh ok
j5 nice stcoh bounce on atyt
lionel like the action on aapl
trdr45 wow JOSB still dumping
gman me too..j5...i was doing trades outside of the room calls..im pissed off that had i stayed with the picks, i would have come out ahead.
swoop anyone here trade options?
j5 yeah best month ever (thanks scott)
the-Don out cal 61cents
jy Anyone play FLOW long @12.01
j5 and i was down terrible, basically was down in 2 days for the whole month
nm aapl do your thing
Scott-ST Moderator: jy JP might have
lionel aapl is falling like bush in the pools
jy ty scott
nm like rain from the sky
nm like manna from heaven
blk_lbl bush in the pools/
JP No FLOW for me, the stop was to wide.
blk_lbl never heard that one before
gman im voting for Al gore if he runs again...coz he invented the internet.so he says
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Ken-ST Moderator: the biggest thing about trading is the over trading
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Cale lol gman
j5 man when i first started daytrading i would screw up orders all the time
Ken-ST Moderator: constantly searching for opportunties. Wiht cash in hand you feel compelled to put it into something
nm j5 me too...practice, discipline, practice, DISCIPLINE
j5 like going short instead of long, screwing limit orders that would execute right away, the good old days
mark Its going to take a long time for apple to get to 71.81
j5 mistyping numbers, grr still do that sometimes
Ken-ST Moderator: you really only need 1 or 2 good trades
gman your right Ken, I often feel that urge when im starting at the screen and no calls are being made..Most of my losses last month were from days that had few calls.
j5 haha mark lol
Ken-ST Moderator: if you can knock those down. call it a day
mark mine to gman, I have to learn to trade only what ken says trade
j5 ken, i know i know, that's why im so pissed today,
Ken-ST Moderator: right, when you over trade you will find that one bad trade will take away all ofyour hard work for hte entire day
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lionel let me call the specialist on aapl to see if he can take it down one buck right away for you guys
mark I have learned over the last two weeks that if ken don't do it, I don't do it
j5 yep!
Ken-ST Moderator: that is why i would rather you all trade the equities in the first hour, then go over to futures
j5 lol lionel, but no spec for nasdaq
nm let's bring back a press release on exploding batteries for aapl
Ken-ST Moderator: really, its the way to go imo
gman it is really hard emotionally to sit down and do nothing and wait...
Ken-ST Moderator: I have my best money making strategy during the lunch period
nm gman, i moved my treadmill downstairs in front of my monitors
mark gman I will let you take over my ebay emails if you are bored
Ken-ST Moderator: the signal comes in perhpaps a couple times a week, but it came in today and just took it to the bank
gman good mark..send me the password..
blk_lbl yes it did
blk_lbl very nice very nice dr kenneth
mark lol
trdr45 It seems like every ones in futures now is it because their more profitable?
mark ken, can we be in both chat rooms at the same time?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes mark, although you will have to subscribe
gman nm good idea on the treadmill. maybe i should try that..if i can only get my lazy ass in the treadmill.
Ken-ST Moderator: I will let everyone in for a free week, but I think the plan is to open it back up in October
gman ken, i missed the reason why you closed it..why was futures closed again?
mellowg well ken i am ready when you are with futures
gman or was it closed
nm you can just walk, watch, walk...you end up thinking more clearly and feel productive
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mark yeap, I didn't get those comments Ken, Is it open for 2 weeks free trial or do we have to subscribe?
gman hmmm. good ideas nm...
Ken-ST Moderator: I closed the room to most traders two months after i opneed it. It was too difficult for me the way I had it structured.
j5 mm do you tradmill trade like in that movie
Ken-ST Moderator: I had people viewing my platform and my every single move
Ken-ST Moderator: And every cancel and order placed was questioned
nm I have my mouse close at hand
nm I lift my monitors on risers to be eye distance with the treadmill
gman ah ok ken, but you confident with new structure this time?
gman i know nothing about futures (or my future for that matter) is it easy to learn?
gman where do i get training manual for futures
j5 nm, there was a movie with keanu
2thdr same way...know nothing about futures, but sounds interesting
j5 go to cme website gman
nm which movie was that j5
swoop gee Ken, I would almost rather see your every move and have no chat...best way to see a pro do it
mellowg cal ready to be bought again...imho
j5 can't remember the name
j5 swoop the prob was that people would ask why he did each move,
nm anyone know the movie?
Ken-ST Moderator: I will comment on when I am entering and scaling in. which direction etc. but will not see my platform
Ken-ST Moderator: I am confident I am getting the structure right. I am trading in front of a small group of people
Ken-ST Moderator: Still fine tuning the structure
j5 ken i would love to see the way you scale in/out etc
Ken-ST Moderator: very sure of the strategy
Ken-ST Moderator: blk is in the room if you want to ask how its going
j5 do an imdb keanu search
Ken-ST Moderator: Someone asked why futures are so popular?
trdr45 ya Ken
Ken-ST Moderator: its liquid, its cheap, and a lot of leverage
j5 i dont know nm, its a chix flix
Ken-ST Moderator: just one market to watch more or less.
Ken-ST Moderator: whats not to like
blk_lbl it's great imo
j5 also less regulations and better tax treatment right ken
j5 slightly better tax
blk_lbl the liquidity is splendid
Ken-ST Moderator: Most people are intimidated by the word futures, and just dont want to take the time out to just get in
Ken-ST Moderator: right j5
blk_lbl and ken is as handsome as ever
blk_lbl in there
Ken-ST Moderator: thats the added bonus blk
blk_lbl lmao!
j5 and scalable, no worring about entering to big a position
2thdr what does futures trading plattform look like, and what do the charts look like...similar to stocks?
blk_lbl did i give away the secret added bonus?
j5 ahh, meant too big a position
Ken-ST Moderator: ah blk, thats no secret
Ken-ST Moderator: Its hard for me to hide that fact
blk_lbl ohh yah i keep forgetting that
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: there are still plusses and minusses with futures
gman Ken, Most people that i talk to regarding Day trading expressed doubts about its long-term profitability. They say 85 - 90 % fail..(hopefully the 15% is this room) what do you think about this notion?
Ken-ST Moderator: if you are not disciplined you can get carried away with the leverage
Ken-ST Moderator: i totally agree gman
Ken-ST Moderator: but hopefully i have made the mistakes so that you dont have to go through what I did
rwalsh ken, are we in the midst of a rally?
Ken-ST Moderator: in range right now rwalsh
Ken-ST Moderator: still too early to say if it is positioning itself for a stab at the hod
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Ken-ST Moderator: the pyschological part of trading is very imporant
gman Got it ken, I'd like to be part of the upper 15 % then.
blk_lbl lol
Ken-ST Moderator: I would say perhaps more important than the overall strategy
blk_lbl i've read it's more like 90 - 95 % gman
the-Don whats the stop on appl?
gman blk, then im glad to be part of the 5-10 % crowd then.
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Scott-ST Moderator: Hello Medo
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blk_lbl sir dubs back in the hizouse
medo Hi SCott
Ken-ST Moderator: wb
rdub yeeah yeeah ...
blk_lbl lol
the-Don sir bob
rdub ty Ken
swoop gman...I've been day trading for abot 3 years now. You CAN make money at it IF you learn to cut your losses FAST. Using Ken's stops is a great guide while you are learning. Keep your losses small and your profits will grow
rdub Mister Donald
the-Don howdy doody
nm swoop, was is your average roi
swoop about 120%/yr
gman glad to hear swoop...thanks for making me feel optimistic then..always wanted to hear the people who consistenty succeed.
the-Don newtons law not working with this aapl
Ken-ST Moderator: main thing I would want people to remember is to not let trading affect your personal life
nm great roi
Ken-ST Moderator: awesome swoop
gman excellent ROI, imo
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Ken-ST Moderator: ok gang its just about the end of lunch
swoop guy who taught me has never had a job...did i right out of university....multimillionaire now
gman anymore success stories from anyone...
nm let's hope the lunchers sell their aapl
gman that's not the bald guy on cable tv, now is it?
annabellab Swoop, what are your favorite indicaters?
swoop hell no....too much hype with him....don't trust him, but don't know him either
gman the guy from new york who said he lost a bundle with a broker so he dit it himself
Ricky Ken, my rule is to not have a stoploss over 1%, even if you suggest more. Woud you find fault with that?
gman yeah, swoop I dont like that guy either. I bought his tape but did not subscribe to his chat room. he sounds ike a car salesman..
swoop only use optiism, pessimism, support, resistance, and volume.....but that is just me
annabellab what platform do you use for your indicaters?
gman too agressive with a battalion of staff pushing for his products. I got turned off.
Cale Ken FLOW hod?
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Scott-ST Moderator: Hello Rwalsh
rwalsh hello, had to reboot
swoop no platform, mostly just research the night before on something like stockcharts.com then confirm in premarket
j5 ricky adjust your position size to the stop
gman ricky, i tried the 1% firm stop and i keep on geting stoped out many times only to see the stock hit the target.
Ricky J5, not quite sure what that means.
gman that drives me nuts.
j5 ken's stops are natural pivot points, if you lower your stop you'll end up stoping alot, so figure your position size so that if you hit the stop your loss is 1% of capital
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]FLOW 12.66[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]FLOW 12.66[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]FLOW 12.66[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: Initial stop looks like 12.34 if triggeed
Ken-ST Moderator: triggered
Ken-ST Moderator: need to step away
Ken-ST Moderator: brb
Ricky J5, okay, thanks.
Ricky gman, thanks for the input.
j5 i have a spreadsheet set up that it automatically calculates all those figures
Scott-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]AAPL[/b]
Scott-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]AAPL[/b]
Scott-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED Consider exit in[/b] [b]AAPL[/b]
the-Don ouch aapl
gd market making another run...
j5 all you need is risk capital entry price and stop price, then it calculates the position size
gman oh man..shouldnt have awaken this morning...ouch
JP Scott, it's under $10 but could I get your opinion on KLIC at $8.21?
j5 type cs are always nice because of the low risk
gd looks like aaple may travel over hod
j5 the flow is coming
j5 hehe
Scott-ST Moderator: shart looks good JP, trending up long term
gd there it goes - aapl
j5 ken it seem the extremely high volume stocks are always a problem
Scott-ST Moderator: JP if it can get up to 8.20 it will break higher
swoop out AMAT darn it !!!
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JP That's what I'm thinking Scott.
Cale SWOOP thats how I feel about SNDK
swoop lol....
j5 wow, some bull sentiment picking up, ken pls ban bear for the rest of hte day
j5 lol
swoop if you don't know the value of a penny....you're not a daytrader !
j5 tha's what im always thinking swoop,
Scott-ST Moderator: lol j5
gd hitk...nice reversal
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j5 some friend was telling me about how they're trying to get rid of the penny, i'n lik pleasn no
ms atyt new hod
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gd bulls out in force
JP lol matk heading back up
mellowg call in the matadors
Scott-ST Moderator: looks like the makets what to close the gaps
j5 scott, don't let me stop it
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j5 ctxs closing in
gman atyt moving up...shoulda..coulda...woulda..oh well.
j5 type as still valid right
Scott-ST Moderator: good eye j5 CTXS is close
j5 what do i get
nm a free trip to disney land
gman ctxs still valid scott
j5 i mean im still waiting for my coffee
Scott-ST Moderator: yes gman
Scott-ST Moderator: we have ATYT still open and getting close to profit
Ken-ST Moderator: back
Scott-ST Moderator: and we have BOOM CTXS and FLOW as open Alerts
j5 yeah scott, keep trying to show off
Scott-ST Moderator: wb
j5 now that the boss is back
Scott-ST Moderator: lol j5
Scott-ST Moderator: I am a showmen
Scott-ST Moderator: Ken's the playe'a
j5 man the vol on atyt, i feel like an ant
gman i must be seeing things. but i thought ATYT was stopped out at entry.
j5 hah? when
JP The stop was moved to entry.
Scott-ST Moderator: no we just moved he stop to entry
Ken-ST Moderator: FLOW is close
Claudia see every1 2moro
Claudia have a great night
j5 take care claudia
j5 just go with the flow
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Scott-ST Moderator: tc Claudia
nm hustle and flow
Cale Whoot, Erins back.....
Cale bad hair day though
Scott-ST Moderator: its always a bad hair day for Erin
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gman atyt for me was stopped out coz i entered at 21.32 and 21.32 hit.
j5 ic gman,
j5 at least you're even
JP PALM has had a nice run up from the low, someone in here mentioned it earlier as a type C.
JP Anyone play it?
Cale I saw that too JP but didnt think it could work
Cale was it Claudia?
gd cale...you still swinging sndk?
Cale yep
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gd what is your target..
Scott-ST Moderator: take cakre Annabell
JP 0.....of course. lol
gd yeah baby!!!
j5 zero? what you're shorting?
Cale looking for 51ish
gd If it hits 0, Cale is buy the room drinks
JP Speaking of Cale looking for SNDK to go to 0. Isn't that were we ideally want every short to go to?
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j5 alright!
Cale yep JP
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j5 ctxs
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gd I am out of here...need to get to the bar before all of you do...
j5 lol gd, tc
gd see ya in the morning
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j5 ctxs
Ken-ST Moderator: while it is close, it is risky at this time of day
Ken-ST Moderator: market is coming off a potential resistance area
Ken-ST Moderator: As a trader, I would not enter it with the market overbought
j5 stoch at 33
j5 market that is
j5 ctxs stoch is at 80
j5 but there you go ken, market heard you, or was it the other way around, :)
Ken-ST Moderator: I wish it was that easy
j5 hehe, you're the man!
j5 aghhh, atyt, come back please!!
Cale drop SNDK
Ricky Ken, which stock are referring to, that you wouldn't enter at this time?
JP CTXS
j5 ctxs
mohammed_y So why hasn't it been cancelled then?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes CTXS ty
Ricky I'm curious as to why you would not cancel the alert
Ken-ST Moderator: the Type As are open all day
j5 man, my flourecent lights started flashing like some kind of pshycodelic show
Ken-ST Moderator: you get intraday guidance from us,
j5 weird
Ken-ST Moderator: but the Type As are setup at the start of the day
j5 i should wire my lights to ken alert sounds, for more effect
j5 that way i wont miss any alerts
mohammed_y I think this is confusing, surely if the head trader thinks that a trade is no longer good then it should be cancelled, right?
j5 good point
Ricky Not quite sure why you would exempt them from recommendation during the day, especially at the end of the day. Not a complaint, just trying to understand it.
Ken-ST Moderator: i am warning you right now that there is adverse risk to it
j5 like when you warn of a thin issue
j5 ?
Ken-ST Moderator: it is still a valid setup, but I think you can wait on the timing
Ricky I say that since i set my trades to trigger on the type A's and then wouldn't know at what it no longer makes sense.
Ricky what time of day or condition
j5 ricky you should check out the dvds
Ken-ST Moderator: it still makes sense all day, I am just saying, you may be able to get a better timing
j5 to me, when ken, issues caution, it just means adjust your position, in general at least
j5 like half your ordinary block
Ken-ST Moderator: as the day gets older, the timing on the market becomes a bigger influence on the trades
Ricky No complaining Ken, but you cancel type B recommenations due around 11:00am, but you would shy away from canceling type B's at 3:45? It's just a gentle, although somewhat ignorant, inquiry.
Ken-ST Moderator: The Type As are setup so that you have a trading plan at the start of the day
Ken-ST Moderator: set your trades and forget it
Ricky sorry, i meant Type A at 3:45
Ken-ST Moderator: if I see an opportunity to warn traders, I do
Ken-ST Moderator: thats it
David-Harmon Trading For any Harmon members here, please open up private chat with me if you have any inquiries.
David-Harmon Trading Or, people who are interested......
j5 ken, atyt at this level seems to ran into p/d
Ken-ST Moderator: ty david
gman yeah david i got a question- can you please put in more money on my account..need more ammo.
j5 sure gman, just ask for the demoversion
David-Harmon Trading $250,000 ok?
j5 hahaha
Ken-ST Moderator: haha
gman ah ok..that will do...just transfer the demo money to the real money account
j5 lmao
mellowg gman... the problem is one of semantics....once ammo is used up...you just got the shell...grin
j5 yes, yes, BUT, what is money if not just numbers that we made up
gman right mellow, didnt think about that.
j5 here you go gman: $10.000 to get you started
mellowg matk crashing
gman thanks j5, now all i need is your bank id and password...and im all set
j5 i hate matk
j5 lol
j5 ken did you see my question about atyt and p/d
stevie24 AAPL Ready
JP Yeah. I was having a wonderful week....then MATK came to the door and I let it come in for a while.
gman Dont let strangers in JP
j5 yeah! who was it saying earlier they've had a great week (and I say "famous last words")
j5 its' only thursday, i've had a great week until today, lol
j5 wow atyt 113k ask on arca
Steve every now and then problems are a blessing - my broker didn't have shares available for me to short MATK, afterwards I wasn't complaining !!
gman Ken, just curious about your opinon as to how much a daytrader need to put on the table to make a decent worthwhile profit.
swoop that was me....but I don't have MATK
JP FLOW close
stevie24 Got that AAPL
j5 gj stevie
Ken-ST Moderator: it all depends on the traders expectations
Ken-ST Moderator: how much margin
Ken-ST Moderator: etc
Ken-ST Moderator: with futures, 5k imo
Ken-ST Moderator: thats all you need
Cale FLOW ant got no flow
Ken-ST Moderator: to start with
gman with 5k in futures what a reasonable profit tgt per month
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j5 np swoop, i just don't like statements like that, you know like: what else can go wrong,
Ken-ST Moderator: hi anna
annabellab Hi
Ken-ST Moderator: 5k to start with, you can trade up to 10 contracts if you really wanted to
Ken-ST Moderator: by just trading between 1 and 4 contracts you can still make 5k that month
swoop lol....i've had more than my share of backfires, to !!!!
gman with daytrades i started with 20k plus initially, then i got wacked rght away. then lowered it to 10 - 15 k per trade..until i get m confidence level up.
Ken-ST Moderator: you will need mad skills, but you can
Scott-ST Moderator: oaky Gang this was a tough market to paly today
Steve when autotrading gets started, will you be posting entry/exit prices based on trigger price or actual entry/exit ?
gman futures seems to be interesting then..I'll check it out..ty ken
Ken-ST Moderator: thats the way gman. Until you can get your emotions out of trading, its not even a matter of profits, more execution of strategy
Scott-ST Moderator: September is notoriously not an easy month for Traders
Ken-ST Moderator: then as you become more comfortable and confident, it is just a matter of increasing your capital
Scott-ST Moderator: Keep the emotions away from each trading dicision
gman im hoping i still have significant portiion of my capital by then.
swoop cut back on how much you put into each trade gman.that will help your frame of mind
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2thdr Ken, do you think it will start to pick up for traders next week?
gman Ken, i have same question as steve about autotrading, when it comes.
gman can you give us a glimpse of how it will be conducted.
gman ty swoop. good idea
nin ken you do offer future trading service now but not auto trade correct,is it hard to follow
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j5 alright , lets go for the last rally
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Ken-ST Moderator: neither at this point. The auto trading stopped for now while we setup the new brokerage
Ken-ST Moderator: So right now just trading in front of a small group of traders
gman is auto trading for futures only or for daytrades as well
swoop taking my daughter for a bike ride...good luck during power hour, all........
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nin get on it i need to put my wife to work
j5 tc swpp[
j5 opps i meant swoop
Ken-ST Moderator: ok swoop tc
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j5 ken when is the week after next supposed to pick up a bit
Ken-ST Moderator: next week action starts to pick up
Ken-ST Moderator: gman, I only day trade the futures
j5 cool
Cale One Hour
j5 the whiching ohur
j5 hour
j5 i can't take it anymore,
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gman you mean auto trade the futures, ken
Ken-ST Moderator: any questions gang?
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rdub Ken a quick question on your futures technique ... ?
j5 cancell all alerts?
Steve Earlier today, someone posted 'MATK has been added to the short list on DAS' - what does this mean?
Ken-ST Moderator: sure rdub
JP MATK back near LOD
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j5 for those trading with harmon brokerage steve,
rdub are u a believer in taking profi quickly on maybe 1 or 2 contracts, say, 1 point or so?
Ken-ST Moderator: Steve - David is here in the room to service people with Harmon Trading
Ken-ST Moderator: they use the DAS platform
Cale you can ever go brooke taking profts
Ken-ST Moderator: yes rdub, I like a 2 point target
Cale a wise man once told me
Ken-ST Moderator: you cant go wrong
Steve OK thanks
rdub but that is with less than 1/2 your position, right?
Ken-ST Moderator: In general if I have just 1 contract, my target will be around 2 points
Ken-ST Moderator: If i have more than 1 lot rather, I can be more creative with my exits on those
rdub cool, so generally the earliest u look to take anything is 2 points ..
Steve what's the ATYT stop
Ken-ST Moderator: it depends on the market, butin general yes
Ken-ST Moderator: I know in the back of my mind, that if i traded two points a day, I would make a killing
JP 21.31
j5 out atyt at break even for the second time today, lol
rdub thanks sir Ken
Scott-ST Moderator: ty JP yep break even
Scott-ST Moderator: Steve
Ken-ST Moderator: np rdub
Steve sorry for missing it, I was out earlier
Scott-ST Moderator: 21.31
Scott-ST Moderator: no problem
Scott-ST Moderator: that why we are here
Ken-ST Moderator: rdub, did youwatch the rest of loose change?
Ken-ST Moderator: I want feedback from someone
j5 what is loose change?
Steve speaking of stops, is there a reason you don't post them on the stock list tables?
rdub i was doing mad homework last nite bro, sorry ... this weekend i will devote my full attention to it!
j5 yeah you tell them steve
j5 ok kids bright and early, b&e, laters
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Ken-ST Moderator: ok j5 tc
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Ken-ST Moderator: Steve, we will be implementing that perhaps tomorrow
mellowg very helpful ken
Steve Wow! now that's what I call responsive - can I ask for other stuff ???
rdub really ken? that's awesome
mellowg steve don't push too hard./...grin
2thdr that's a great idea
Steve oops, just got excited
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 21.43[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 21.43[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]MATK 21.43[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: CANCEL ALL ALERTS
Scott-ST Moderator: HUH
Ken-ST Moderator: Just kidding gang
Ken-ST Moderator: cancel all alerts
Cale wow, i was gong to say
Ken-ST Moderator: we are not playing MATk for the rest of the week
Cale LOL ken the funny man
Cale how about the rest of the year
mellowg ken...i am still short MATK at avg 21.63 you mean i might be better off to hold
nm What a belly laugh!
gman holy smokes ken, i had enough of that stock...it made me clazy!
gman hit the blakes already will ya
Cale LOL
Cale gman
Cale giving ken the business
Cale bling bling
Ken-ST Moderator: Anyone want some flied lice?
gman or we will clash!
nm I did long around 10:30 am and made .20.
Ken-ST Moderator: nice nm
Ken-ST Moderator: gj
nm Longes MATK at 10:30 am ish
gman get me some.. ken..my favolite food.
nm thx
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
gman ok ken you need to raise your right hand..and repeat after me.
gman I promise to make up for today, so help me scott
Ken-ST Moderator: I promise to make up for today......
gman 2morow preferably..
Ken-ST Moderator: by next week
DavidBer hmm - buy blk's mom?
Ken-ST Moderator: tomorrow is friday
gman bad day 2morow?
gman let me know now, so i'll have a good weekend
Ken-ST Moderator: most of the action will be in the first hour
Ken-ST Moderator: trade the first hour if anything
Ken-ST Moderator: and still keep it light
Cale tomorow is a a day off
Ken-ST Moderator: Historically the next week is when things start to slowly pickup
Cale no trading
gman ok boss, hear you loud and clear. loger that...i mean roger that
Cale I am the boss
Cale dont let ken fool you
Cale if you want to know just ask ME
Cale I am your Daddy
gman ok boss cale logel that..(roger that)
Cale whos your daddy Ken, whos your DADDY?
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
gman you clazy cale.!
gman but handsome
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Cale WB
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Cale feeling handsome
Ken-ST Moderator: ok gang, I am out
Ken-ST Moderator: will see you all tomrrow
Ken-ST Moderator: have a good weekend cale
Ken-ST Moderator: take care
Cale later Ken
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Ken-ST Moderator: bye all
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gman ty ken, c u tom..remember your promise
Scott-ST Moderator: what promise was that?
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Scott-ST Moderator: hummmm wink wink
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rdub .. but no pressure or anything ...
gman cu scott ty too..
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Scott-ST Moderator: later gman
Scott-ST Moderator: take care everyone
Scott-ST Moderator: have a good evening
Scott-ST Moderator: now that Ken is going I am going to slip out too
mellowg cya s
Scott-ST Moderator: unless there are any questions

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