12/20/05 Chat Session
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]James[/b]
mark2 gm Ken
James-ST Moderator: gm all
mark2 gm James
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Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]amlo[/b]
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BRUNO3 GM
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]BRUNO[/b]
amlo gm everyone
James-ST Moderator: hey bruno,
amlo
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Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]reserve[/b]
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reserve gm all
Dusty gm all
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pitboss EPIC
pitboss UARM
pitboss ORCT
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]jr, pitboss[/b]
pitboss GOOG in range
jr morning
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izzy3.0 anyone else having
trouble with the chat room?!?
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Dusty K/J is the only posted
stock on the left VPHM?
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Todd-SOF Direct gm everyone
amlo gm todd
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James-ST Moderator: dusty, you
got it? not much out there
James-ST Moderator: gm bengal,
alaska, tms, izzy,
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]tms, alaska, bengal[/b]
izzy gm james
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Dusty Ken/James PD?
pitboss SRLS
Ken-ST Moderator: hi Dusty
Dusty Hi Ken!
pitboss cnct
pitboss ANGO
reserve PLAY sh<15.24?
pitboss NLY
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reserve PLAB sorry
pitboss HAIN just priced a
secondary offering, be aware
ak gm all
Ken-ST Moderator: ty pitboss
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]ak[/b]
James-ST Moderator: hey pit,
where ya been?
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Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]MarkB, Jovid[/b]
jovid gm
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jy gm
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Good
Morning[/b] [b]JP, jy[/b]
JP Hello
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pitboss MANT
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david Morning
kimmron gm all
jr MANT is a Cramer pick from
last night FYI
James-ST Moderator: ah ty jr
James-ST Moderator: hey david,
kimmron, saf, jp, jy, anyone i missed
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Hunter : gm guys
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Jose gm
Ken-ST Moderator: Be
conservative gnag
Ken-ST Moderator: gang today
Ken-ST Moderator: gm hunter,
jose
pitboss SRTLS volatile!!!!!
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
pitboss SRLS
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]RHAT
26.37[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]RHAT
26.37[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]RHAT
26.37[/b]
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irachmiel gm
Ken-ST Moderator: TRADING THIS
WEEK WILL BE SLOW
Ken-ST Moderator: DO NOT FORCE
TRADES
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: CANCEL SRLS
amlo rhat is long?
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MarkB Is RHAT supposed to be
listed to the left?
Ken-ST Moderator: at a new hod
yes on RHAT
MarkB Right but should I see it
on the list
MarkB If so I do not
Ken-ST Moderator: ok it should
be
Ken-ST Moderator: its coming up
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kimmron Ken, any opinion on
SNDA.Iam stuck with it short
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Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]RHAT 26.37[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]RHAT 26.37[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]RHAT 26.37[/b]
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
25.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
25.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
25.77[/b]
pitboss ORCT massive spread
Ken-ST Moderator: trade it
cautiously
pitboss RHAT stop?
alaska GGR may be a play at new
HOD
Ken-ST Moderator: lod on RHAT
izzy :-/
Ken-ST Moderator: nice alaaska
Ken-ST Moderator: lets add
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]GGR
12.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]GGR
12.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]GGR
12.51[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
19.99[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
19.99[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
19.99[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]RHAT[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]RHAT[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]RHAT[/b]
izzy STOP on RHAT???
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator Buy!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]GGR[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Buy[/b] [b]GGR[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: HAIN is close
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Ken-ST Moderator: HAIN is close
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]HAIN 19.99[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]HAIN 19.99[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]HAIN 19.99[/b]
Dusty what is the stop on ggr?
Ken-ST Moderator: 12.05
Ken-ST Moderator: currently
Ken-ST Moderator: If you missed
HAIN the first time around, the LOD creates another
short setup
kimmron GGR stop?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]GGR[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]GGR[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]GGR[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: Sorry gang,
that spread is huge
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Ken-ST Moderator: Couldnt
really tell at that time
Ken-ST Moderator: gm cat
BRUNO3 AVOID ASE STOCKS !!!
cat hi
Ken-ST Moderator: yes, listed
stocks are dangerous to begin with
cat meow
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alaska I used 11.47 as my stop
on ggr, from yesterdays support
Ken-ST Moderator: cool
izzy wow, i'm majorly broke, i
might have to stop day trading today...
Ken-ST Moderator: the stock is
still in trend
Ken-ST Moderator: above its 20
EMA
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izzy HAIN stop?
Ken-ST Moderator: gm mjmtrader
Ken-ST Moderator: currently HOD
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
mjmtrader Good morning, Ken.
First time in.
Ken-ST Moderator: hey, good to
have you
Ken-ST Moderator: Take things
slow
Ken-ST Moderator: as mentioned
before gang, take it very easy until the end of the
year
Ken-ST Moderator: we are in
total holiday trading
Ken-ST Moderator: Those in OSTK
short
Ken-ST Moderator: on secondary
exits, consider taking some profits on that dip
Ken-ST Moderator: never hurts
to take some profits on moves like that
Ken-ST Moderator: Never hurts
to take profits period.
cat especially at the dice
table
izzy feels like the dice table
this week...
cat its always a dice table
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
cat beware of large spread
traders
alaska pfe seems to be trying
to fill in the gap downwards
alaska sorry bear
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Cancel watch
on MCHP
Ken-ST Moderator: Market in
area of its 20 day EMA
Ken-ST Moderator: mgm, feel
free to observe and ask questions as they come. We
will get to them when things slow
mjmtrader Will do. Good morning
to the group.
BRUNO3 STOP ON HAIN ?
Ken-ST Moderator: Still the hod
BRUNO3 TY
Ken-ST Moderator: choppy
trading, stops are loose
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
25.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
25.77[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: first post
typo
Hunter : I'm startin to think
the grinch have stolen the xmas rally !
Ken-ST Moderator: who wants to
buy stock this week
Ken-ST Moderator: they are all
buying presents
izzy i've hit my loss target,
unless HAIN tanks to 18, i'm pretty much done with
day trading... any advice?
Dusty with big bonus
Ken-ST Moderator: You are the
best person to know izzy. Everyone is different
Ken-ST Moderator: If you are
lacking confidence, revert back to paper trading
Ken-ST Moderator: we are in
holiday trading mode,
Ken-ST Moderator: be
conservative
Ken-ST Moderator: lighter
capital
Jose Strategy is King, izzy
Jose Allocation is Queen.
cat and money is Jack
Hunter : and fear is a bitch !
Jose Solid trading strategy
alone just won't cut it. You also have to understand
the risk associated with each trade and
mjmtrader Did you start the day
with the stocks listed? Do you add to it throughout
the day?
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Jose allocate your funds
Ken-ST Moderator: We add
throughout the day
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Ken-ST Moderator: market near
the p/d lows
Ken-ST Moderator: that is sound
advice jose
Hunter : however, those without
fear die quick !
cat RHAT LOD play?
Ken-ST Moderator: it is now
back in the p/d range
Ken-ST Moderator: we will
refrain
cat pos
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Ken-ST Moderator: gm IV50
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Ken-ST Moderator: hi david
Ken-ST Moderator: ORCT still
close
david hey ken
James-ST Moderator: hey david,
kimmroni
Dusty no orct on Etrade.
david hi James
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cat I'm getting a weird feeling
about ORCT
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kimmroni James, my chat window
froze and couldn't enter with my previous name
kimmron (it says it is in use) so I used kimmroni
instead
James-ST Moderator: if you
freeze or lose connection, your ghost name will be
stuck in the room for a few minutes
izzy spooky
kimmroni Ok, understood. I
think now it's free.Tx.
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Ken-ST Moderator: I think ORCT
looks quite handsome
Ken-ST Moderator: if it takes
out the LOD
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Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
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James-ST Moderator: Market
stochastics are up, currently testing the 50 ema on
the 5 minute chart...
James-ST Moderator: [b]Gang,we
strongly suggest that a 5 minute candlestick chart
of the SPX be kept open to give you a visual of
current market conditions, overlay this chart with
5, 20 and 50 ema and slow stochastics. You will
find that this will help you with your personal
daytrading, giving you the “heartbeat” of the
market.[/b]
izzy well, i'm done for the
day, losses ovre 3K, i can't bare it... i might be
back next year... cya all
kimmroni Ken,Is HAIN stop
20.39?
Dusty Good luck Izzy!
izzy Mark: i hope it goes well
for u buddy
izzy thanks dusty
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MarkB THX Izzy u2
James-ST Moderator: ok izzy
catch you later
Dusty James, CC finally broke
thru 22.50!
izzy quick question james:
market conditions return to normal starting new
year?
Hunter : izzy how long you been
doin this ?
James-ST Moderator: ah there ya
go dusty
James-ST Moderator: well if
normal means volume picks up, then yes izzy
izzy hunter: I've day traded on
and off, i have always net profit, but this time
around was bad, with this strategy this will be the
3rd week, i feel like this strategy doesn't work
well with these market conditions, i will pull back
until market returns to something better
Ken-ST Moderator: izzy we have
noted more conservative trading for the past couple
weeks
Ken-ST Moderator: until the end
of the year
kimmroni Ken, what is the stop
on HAIN?
James-ST Moderator: 20.40
Hunter : yeah izzy thats what
I've done, very little trading quick out if it turns
& quick profit if it shows up I've found that helps
me to stay in the game and keep my capitol while
gaining the knowledge and experience to win
consistently !
cat2 is hain a buy at 21.40?
cat2 20.40
James-ST Moderator: If you look
at daily chart of the SPX we are right where we were
on the start of 12/13.....Market is dead
Hunter : what mistakes does
your trading log show your makin izzy ?
kimmroni CAT, 20.40 is the stop
on HAIN
cat2 i know
cat2 but is it also a buy
signal since iys a hod
Ken-ST Moderator: yes it would
be
Ken-ST Moderator: it is now
testing its 20 ema
cat2 thought so
James-ST Moderator: clever cat
Ken-ST Moderator: good job
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
MarkB Are we looking at RHAT
for a short?
alaska GGR moving up now
Ken-ST Moderator: No Mark, it
is now back into the previous days range
James-ST Moderator: hey alaska,
you held on to it?
MarkB OK THX
cat2 good day to kick the cat
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James-ST Moderator: Creepy
twins on CNBC
alaska my stop was 11.47, now
at 11.9, I used yesterdays resistance, I have been
following the stock, bought it at 10 in my IRA
Ken-ST Moderator: lmao james
James-ST Moderator: hansome
alaska
James-ST Moderator: handsome
jr they thoroughly annoy me
James-ST Moderator: lol
James-ST Moderator: There were
interesting before.......the more i see them, the
creepier they become
James-ST Moderator: This
weather girl annoys me
jr its her voice
James-ST Moderator: that and
her dress......she dresses like a teenager
Hunter : yeah James, what is
she 12 yrs old !
James-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: lmao
James-ST Moderator: I don't
care about clothes much, but every time i see her I
think man this girl has no fashion sense at all.....
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE:
Moving stop on[/b] [b]HAIN 20.29[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE:
Moving stop on[/b] [b]HAIN 20.29[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE:
Moving stop on[/b] [b]HAIN 20.29[/b]
cat2 that looks like it will
get hit
James-ST Moderator: hey alaska,
nice stop on GGR......looking real good
cat2 K, why the change?
Hunter : she hasn't hit puberty
yet James what do ya expect ? ! ! lol
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James-ST Moderator: lmao hunter
Ken-ST Moderator: cat, that
level would take out the last peak above the 20 ema
cat2 oic
cat2 tme for cat chow
cat2 bbl
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]HAIN [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]HAIN [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]HAIN [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
rerserve very slow mkt! 1
trade for no gain.
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
20.40[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
20.40[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
20.40[/b]
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mjmtrader Ken-on these choppy
days what do you do to identify other trade
possibilities or do we just sit and wait.
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Ken-ST Moderator: mjm, choppy
days should be traded more conservatively
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Buy at new high of the day on[/b] [b]HAIN
20.40[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: We are now
rolling into the lunch period
Ken-ST Moderator: Lunch period
is the toughest time to trade
Ken-ST Moderator: it is the
most unprofitable time of day for traders
Ken-ST Moderator: we stress
traders keep trades to a minimum during this time of
day
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Cancel all
Type B alerts
alaska NNI is one to watch
after lunch maybe, not a gapper but solid strength
alaska oops too big of a spread
Ken-ST Moderator: We will be
scanning for Type C shorts soon
jr how about RIMM?
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Ken-ST Moderator: jr, that is a
really crappy stock in an even crappier range
Ken-ST Moderator: but take a
look at its day chart
Ken-ST Moderator: total range
action going on
Ken-ST Moderator: you want to
avoid stocks like that
jr good point, think I peaked
at the weekly
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izzy today has be be worst day
of all time...
izzy for you guys anyway, i
list way more yesterday...
reserve ken, what's your
opinion on a stock like sndk that gapped down and
has made a round trip back to the gap?
Ken-ST Moderator: still in
range on SNDK, hard to make heads or tails of a gap
in a range
Ken-ST Moderator: but in
general stocks that close gaps like that continue in
that direction
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Ken-ST Moderator: think of it
this way
Ken-ST Moderator: a stock gaps
down
Ken-ST Moderator: shorts from
the previous day is making money
Ken-ST Moderator: as the gap
closes, they are now losing their profits
Ken-ST Moderator: finally when
the gap closes they may have now lost all their
profits and thoughts of exiting the trade start to
enter their heads
Ken-ST Moderator: brings in
more buying
jy long SNDK at 57.31 exited at
58.67
jy still running
reserve you da man jy
James-ST Moderator: wow, that
is a nice trade
jy type c
Ken-ST Moderator: nice jy
Ken-ST Moderator: quite
handsome
jy the futures chart helped
jy RHAT announcing earning
tomorrow after market close
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alaska SRLS a nice rise for any
gamblers out there
alaska huges gap down, and
moving up a bit
mjmtrad What a day to get
started.
Ken-ST Moderator: JY would you
say the futures room is helping with your stock
trading?
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jy yes. this last trade on SNDK
jy I exited when the stoch was
overbought
Ken-ST Moderator: nice
alaska For myself, I find the
futures room is teaching me more patience and time
of day issues, and even more importantly, usually
on days when I lose on stocks I make up for it on
futures
jr how do you get to it, don't
see it on the website
Ken-ST Moderator: good alaska
Ken-ST Moderator: jr, it will
be available tomorrow
Ken-ST Moderator: Time of day
is very important when trading
Ken-ST Moderator: it is the
most important thing I look at when trading the
Eminis
Ken-ST Moderator: My entire
trading is structured around it
James-ST Moderator: What are
you guys getting me for Christmas?
Ken-ST Moderator: Picture of me
James-ST Moderator: [img
id=em-2]
Ken-ST Moderator: [img id=em-3]
James-ST Moderator: coal in my
stocking would be better
Ken-ST Moderator: Picture of me
and your mom better?
James-ST Moderator: [img
id=em-4]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Gang,we
strongly suggest that a 5 minute candlestick chart
of the SPX be kept open to give you a visual of
current market conditions, overlay this chart with
5, 20 and 50 ema and slow stochastics. You will
find that this will help you with your personal
daytrading, giving you the “heartbeat” of the
market.[/b]
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Ken-ST Moderator: JY that was a
very nice trade
alaska guys, SRLS is an ideal
scalping situation here if you like to gamble
jy ken, SNDK ?
Ken-ST Moderator: yeah nice one
man
jy learning from the masters
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
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Ken-ST Moderator: any
questions?
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Ken-ST Moderator: hi Ron
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jy PALM announcing earnings
after market close today
Ken-ST Moderator: cool
Ken-ST Moderator: ty jy
alaska wow, I'm done with
stocks for today, pulled $1500 out of SRLS, onto
futures now!
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Ken-ST Moderator: nice alaska
Ken-ST Moderator: hi tcat
tcat hey ken
Ken-ST Moderator: market
breaking out to a new hod, however please note that
we are still in the lunch period
Ken-ST Moderator: all breakouts
during the lunch period should be viewed at with
caution
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Ken-ST Moderator: still
scanning for Type C short setups
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Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Intraday
Trend is Sideways to Up[/b]
reserve sorry. fingers
slipped. no private chat unless you want to share
how you identified that SRLS trade
alaska Ken, SRLs qualifies here
now, over $10
alaska SRLS
Ken-ST Moderator: spread was
enormous in the am
Ken-ST Moderator: but now ok
Ken-ST Moderator: testing its
50 ema here
Ken-ST Moderator: we will wait
until after lunch period to open up any alerts on
that stock
alaska very liquid, 2-3 cents
spread ususally, found it on highest gainers
Ken-ST Moderator: yes
Ken-ST Moderator: the early
morning was weird...spread was about 15 cents
alaska the oil news, we are
forcing the oil companies to make a deal with us in
Alaska, we want to be partners in owning the gas
line
Ken-ST Moderator: market dipped
below the 5 ema
Ken-ST Moderator: stoch near to
the overbought earea
Ken-ST Moderator: area
Ken-ST Moderator: watching
closely for any break in trend
Dusty Ken I have short on sndk
at 58.65 my plan was to exit at 58.35. What do you
think of holding it in light of the downgrade and
the chart pattern?
James-ST Moderator: hey alaska.....what
is the deal up there? something like all alaskans
get 30k a year in oil royalties?
Ken-ST Moderator: dont trade
new Dusty
Ken-ST Moderator: poison
Ken-ST Moderator: when you say
holding, do you mean swing trade?
alaska no, we get about 1k a
year which is just a tiny piece of the interest on
our oil revenue savings
James-ST Moderator: do the
eskimos get more?
Dusty no it's a day trade. I'm
up a couple of hundred. Think I should bail?
alaska each member of the
family, who lived here for 1 year, gets a dividend
check annually, usually about 1k
James-ST Moderator: i thought
it was substantial.....1k is pittance .......i
thought thye did it to encourage more people to live
up there
Ken-ST Moderator: what was your
entry
Ken-ST Moderator: at the very
least my stop would be the HOD
Ken-ST Moderator: market is in
your favor right now
Dusty 58.65. I used the 1 min
chart. Saw it was in a pattern.
alaska any native organization
that owns land that was leased (like INupiat eskimos
in Barrow area) benefit from lease sales.
Ken-ST Moderator: stoch down,
market under the 5 ema
alaska ANd they tax the output
of the oil too
James-ST Moderator: ah
Ken-ST Moderator: it is
currently finding resistance under its 50 ema
Ken-ST Moderator: if it takes
out the 58.24 area you could have a very merry
christmas a few days early
Dusty That would be great. I've
had a tough couple of weeks.
Ken-ST Moderator: the 5 min EMA
trend is still down
Ken-ST Moderator: what was your
target on the trade?
James-ST Moderator: that lady
who had her her 17th kid in cali should move up
there
James-ST Moderator: 19k a year
for them
alaska James, yes large
families really depend on the dividend checks for
their income
Dusty I shorted at 58.65 with a
planned exit at 58.35. I seems as if I could have a
winner if I hang on a bit. My stop was HOD.
alaska James, some native
corporations, like in Barrow, do have their own
corporate dividends, and some of them do hand out
30k to their member/owners each year if they had a
profitable year.
Dusty JPM said SNDK was
overvalued by 35%. They issued and underperform and
a target of 38.
James-ST Moderator: wow....thus
the high alocholism rate......lot of those guys are
collecting money without doing a thing
Ken-ST Moderator: scaling out
some profits is never a bad idea
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Ken-ST Moderator: locks in
profits, reduces risk on the trade
Ken-ST Moderator: easier to
make decisions in a no lose situation
Ken-ST Moderator: GA Bear
Dusty got it. I think trying
too hard to recover. Sage advice.
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Ken-ST Moderator: market new
hod
david Ken and James, do you
think ORCT is going to move back down this aft. with
people taking profits?
Ken-ST Moderator: it is in a
range right now
Ken-ST Moderator: no way of
knowing which way it will move
david Thanks.
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Ken-ST Moderator: do you have a
current position in the stock?
david Yes, short.
Ken-ST Moderator: ok gang its
just past the 1:00 turn time
Ken-ST Moderator: market is
overbought
Ken-ST Moderator: we will open
up short alerts early here
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type B Short at new low of the day on[/b] [b]ORCT
24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type A Short on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type A Short on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type A Short on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.54[/b]
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bearrally what happen?
Ken-ST Moderator: What are you
up to today?
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Ken-ST Moderator: wb
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bearrally yes, it's not working
Ken-ST Moderator: what is it
telling you?
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry that
was in error
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James-ST Moderator: hey alaska,
was it you we talked about the internet over power
lines? looks like Texas is going that route
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kimmroni Ken, can you take a
look at palm and offer your opinion?
Dusty Ken looking at short in
PD at 140.48. Any thoughts?
kimmroni Is LONG a valid
position for PALM?
Ken-ST Moderator: Dusty PD is
in trading range of last 4 days, and currently
trading above its 5 day EMA
Ken-ST Moderator: You may see a
more reliable move below 139.89
Dusty Got it thanks.
Zia wow bad day thus far#
Zia this month has been a ****
kimmroni Ken, can you comment
on PALM
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Ken-ST Moderator: the trend is
nicely up
Ken-ST Moderator: however with
the stocks stoch overbought and the market
overbought, it appears risky
kimmroni Ken, so its about to
get out with 0.2
Ken-ST Moderator: Would much
rather see the market near oversold, or a nice
consoliation on the stock near the highs
kimmroni Tx.
Ken-ST Moderator: If you are
already in, make sure you secure yourself a nice
profit and play tight stops
kimmroni Ok, done. Tx. Ken
kimmroni Ken, profit on time on
PALM.Tx for the advice
alaska kimmroni, not all the
news on Palm is good, be careful
Zia Ken is there anywhere we
can view the futures results thus far?
kimmroni alaska, I am out but
tx. anyway
Ken-ST Moderator: We will not
be posting any prior results
Ken-ST Moderator: ORCT is close
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: SYNA too
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type A Short on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type A Short on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]Watching
for Type A Short on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE A
Trade (Breakdown). Consider Short[/b] [b]SYNA
24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE A
Trade (Breakdown). Consider Short[/b] [b]SYNA
24.54[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE A
Trade (Breakdown). Consider Short[/b] [b]SYNA
24.54[/b]
kimmroni Ken, you meant that
the futures daily performance will not be posted as
the stocks results are
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Ken-ST Moderator: It will be
once we officially launch the room
Ken-ST Moderator: but we will
not post any results prior to then
kimmroni Ok, what futures will
be traded in the room only e-mini or others too
Ken-ST Moderator: just the
Emini S&P
James-ST Moderator: we are
working on a bacon futures strategy
Ken-ST Moderator: lol
Ken-ST Moderator: ORCT is close
Ken-ST Moderator: we have found
that when James is hungery, the bacon futures rises
a lot
BRUNO3 STOP ON SYNA PLS.
James-ST Moderator: lots of
research in this one
kimmroni James, why bacon?
jy Stop on SYNA ?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE:
Moving stop on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.86[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE:
Moving stop on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.86[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]UPDATE:
Moving stop on[/b] [b]SYNA 24.86[/b]
James-ST Moderator: sorry
kimmroni......we were just joking about bacom
futures, although i am sure it can be
profitable......just e-mini
kimmroni It was ajoke on my
side too, lol
James-ST Moderator: ah lmao
James-ST Moderator: i was kinda
worried
Dusty Holy cow I got out of
HAIN even!
Ken-ST Moderator: The original
stop held
Ken-ST Moderator: lol kimmron
Ken-ST Moderator: nice Dusty
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Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator Short!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]ORCT 24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]ORCT 24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]TYPE B
Trade (Gap). Consider Short[/b] [b]ORCT 24.61[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator Profit!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]1% PROFIT
HIT. Consider taking some profits in[/b] [b]ORCT
[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]1% PROFIT
HIT. Consider taking some profits in[/b] [b]ORCT
[/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]1% PROFIT
HIT. Consider taking some profits in[/b] [b]ORCT
[/b]
jr did anyone even get in, it
moved soooo fast!
alaska wow
Ken-ST Moderator: Mark was in
before
amlo2 true
Ken-ST Moderator: and he is
suddenly went from average looking to GQ
spokesperson
reserve orct only a blur on my
order entry. no chance
jr I had an audio alert well
before and still couldn't get there
Ken-ST Moderator: stock is
still in trend
BRUNO3 STOP ORDER NOT EXECUTED
ON ORCT !!!
jr tried, none available
reserve would like to see syna
make the same move
alaska that is so much crap
what they are saying about what the oil companies
want
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Ken-ST Moderator: Hey RoG
alaska they don't want to pump
any gas out of the ground because it makes it harder
to get all the oil out when they do that.
James-ST Moderator: ah
RoGeRj Hey Ken - James
James-ST Moderator: hey rog
jy Hope SYNA comes back down
RoGeRj what do you think about
OXY long at 83.00 ?? not much above that to 84
Ken-ST Moderator: still in
range on daily chart
Ken-ST Moderator: may produce
choppy conditions and unreliable breakouts
reserve jy, generally when I
start hoping, it'sasignal to cover and I'm hoping
right now
RoGeRj I guess I was better of
trying to get around midtown than trading so far
today!
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jy reserve, hoping - wishing -
have you covered yet ?
reserve no because stoch
indicates overbought
jy you're right about that.
jy SYNA stoch is ocming down a
little
jy SYNA looks like it 'll be
stopped
reserve unfortunately s&p stoch
moving up
BRUNO3 SYNA TRADED @ 24.86 ! -
IS THE STOP ELECTED ?
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]SYNA [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]SYNA [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: [b]STOPPED
Consider exit in[/b] [b]SYNA [/b]
Ken-ST Moderator: sorry about
that
Ken-ST Moderator: If you are
still in, wait for the offer to be at the stop for
better stop indication
Ken-ST Moderator: we will close
the trade here however
irachmiel buy long syna?
jy NEW YORK (MarketWatch) --
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strike
kimmroni Ken, how many
contracts are you going to trade (a single trade)
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Ken-ST Moderator: I will be
starting with a 5 - 15k portifolio
Ken-ST Moderator: and trading 1
contract lots
Ken-ST Moderator: to start
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kimmroni 1 point move in s&p is
50$?
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Ken-ST Moderator: yes
alaska If anyone joins the
future room, my advice is to do exactly what Ken
does, don't improvise. You can trade more lots, but
keep it exactly at the entry points and in
proportion to what Ken does.
kimmroni Ken, what is the range
of change you are looking at. Is it 1% like in
stocks (i guess it much lower)
Ken-ST Moderator: My typical
target is in the range of 2 points
Dusty Typically how many trades
do you make in a day?
RoGeRj Ken when is the futures
room starting?
Ken-ST Moderator: 1 - 3 trades
kimmroni alaska, what kind of
proportions?
Ken-ST Moderator: I may average
down on a trade up to 3 times
Dusty just ballpark it for me.
What kind of dollars are you looking to make on a 5k
investment?
Ken-ST Moderator: it all
depends on time frame
alaska kim, I mean if you want
to trade big, and Ken is doing 1 lot per entry, than
you do 2 lots per entry, or 3, or 10, but keep it
proportionate to his entries and only at his entry
points.
Ken-ST Moderator: I think I can
turn it into 100 k in a year
cat2 is that by compounding the
equity with eacu trade?
Ken-ST Moderator: I have a
general scale that I will be following
cat2 can you share?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes, as my
equity rises to different levels, I will be
increasing my Contracts per lot
cat2 is that a fixed % or a
dollar amount?
Dusty From a risk perpective.
Is it more or less risky that say Day Trading?
kimmroni alaska, still can't
follow you. 1,3,10 and follow entry is clear but i
do not understand what you mean by "keep it
proportionate to his entries"
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Ken-ST Moderator: Dusty, you
dont need as much capital
Ken-ST Moderator: but on a
percentage basis it is very risky
Ken-ST Moderator: on a 5k
investment I can make 10% on a good day
Dusty understood, but is the
potential for "quick" loss as great?
Ken-ST Moderator: of course
cat2 you wont have tight stops?
Ken-ST Moderator: I have very
loose initial stops
Ken-ST Moderator: not for the
weak
Ken-ST Moderator: baby
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cat2 how long have you been
testing this system?
Ken-ST Moderator: this current
one, all year
alaska kim, I mean if you want
to trade 3 times as many lots as ken, do 3 lots
every time he does one lot. Sorry I wasn't clear.
cat2 in real time with real $
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Ken-ST Moderator: both test and
real account
kimmroni what are the results
so far percentage iwse and drwdown
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cat2 hw has the real account
done?
Ken-ST Moderator: minor
adjustments here and there
kimmroni drawdown
Ken-ST Moderator: Really, I
dont want you all to pin hopes on my past history
kimmroni Ken, what was the
highest drawdown during this year?
Ken-ST Moderator: I ahve done
very well
jy market moving down
Ken-ST Moderator: i wouldnt be
launching it otherwise
cat2 understood, but its good
to know
Ken-ST Moderator: I will show
it all to you in real time
Dusty Understood. But like
employees past history is an indicatior of future
performance! ;-)
kimmroni Ken, at leat a vague
indication about the potential drawdown
kimmroni during the testing
year
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Ken-ST Moderator: kimmron, you
can lose all your money with futures
Ken-ST Moderator: thats not
vague
Ken-ST Moderator: its very
specific
jy shorted SHRp at 9.79 just
covered at 9.65
reserve nice
cat2 Ken, knowing that your pas
performance is no indicztion of the future, what %
up are you in real time?
jy SHRP is Sharper Image - a
retail chian that I think will not survive long.
kimmroni this is not waht I
asked. Your answer is obvious. What I asked is what
was the drawdown during the testing year. This may
give us an indication to what we can expect since it
is statistical (1 year)
irachmiel good job jy!
jy ty
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Ken-ST Moderator: biggest
drawdown was $800 per 1 contract lot entries
cat2 over 15 points
irachmiel how did you know to
short shrp, jy?
jy I shorted SHRP at 10.39 two
days and made some profit. Today I shorted it again.
James, it's like MOVI.
kimmroni This is something we
can ealuate and think about. Tnx. Ken
reserve jy, syna stoch just
dropped to 80 on my 5 min chart. would you have the
guts to\try toget your $'s back
cat2 orct lod
irachmiel movi?
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Ken-ST Moderator: I really do
not want to give any historical info
Ken-ST Moderator: You will see
what I am doing in the chat room
jy reserve, SYNA is a tough
call. It might need the overall market's help.
kimmroni Ken, understood
although from my experience as a user it gives a lot
of confidence and this is one of the biggest
strength of Swingtrades as compared to other sites
that I know (and I know a lot)
alaska I can say that it is
easy to lose 10 times as you can make, but that's
true in here too if things don't go your way. I
wouldn't trade more than 5% of your money available
to trade on each entry point.
irachmiel syna is moving down
did you short it jy?
jy NO.
cat2 K will there be advance
notice of your trades...time for others to mimic?
Dusty I shorted at 24.93.
Ken-ST Moderator: kimmron, a
couple days in the chat
Ken-ST Moderator: and you will
have confidence in what I am doing
jy I still have 1/2 of my SHRP
short - see if I can ride it down further.
cat2 I like that attitude!
Ken-ST Moderator: Plus, you get
the hear my sexy voice
Ken-ST Moderator: cat, yup
there is a lot of time to mimic my trades
kimmroni This last one is
probably the most convicing argument lol
cat2 good
kimmroni the sexy voice i mean
RoGeRj Ken when is the futures
room starting - are we trading just the s & p mini
or other markets too
cat2 K where is eupport/re on
ORCT?
Ken-ST Moderator: I only trade
the S and P minis
cat2 support/resistance
Ken-ST Moderator: 23.75 is only
argument i see
cat2 k
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Ken-ST Moderator: We just
exited a futures trade
Ken-ST Moderator: Ill tell you
my performance for today
Ken-ST Moderator: 2.75 points
Ken-ST Moderator: on 1 trade
Ken-ST Moderator: I am hoping
we get that email out tomorrow to allow you all into
the futures room
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Ken-ST Moderator: Futures are
cool
Ken-ST Moderator: and it will
help you stock trading tremendously imo
Ken-ST Moderator: it will give
you a great assessment for the intraday market
Ken-ST Moderator: best time for
stocks is the first hour of the dya
Ken-ST Moderator: day
Dusty so would profit on that
be approx 137?
Ken-ST Moderator: I like the
trading i the futures from 10:30 through 2:30
Ken-ST Moderator: yes Dusty
Ken-ST Moderator: on 1 contract
Dusty you ave between one and
three trades per day?
Ken-ST Moderator: yes
Ken-ST Moderator: but 1 trade
may involve up to 4 contracts
Dusty approx how much is a
contract?
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Ken-ST Moderator: depends on
your broker, but most require between 500 and 1k
Ken-ST Moderator: for each
contract
Ken-ST Moderator Update!
Ken-ST Moderator: Cancel all
alerts
Ken-ST Moderator: Lets do a
market assessment:
Ken-ST Moderator: Daily Chart:
below the 5 day EMA, stoch in downtrend
Ken-ST Moderator: Hourly
chart: now in downtrend as noted by the 20 EMA
below the 50 EMA
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Ken-ST Moderator: 5 min chart
: downtrend
Ken-ST Moderator: Overall there
is a downtrending bias to the market
Ken-ST Moderator: wb tryhard
tryhard thanks
Ken-ST Moderator: any questions
gang?
Ken-ST Moderator: holiday
trading all week
Ken-ST Moderator: and next
Ken-ST Moderator: conservative
trading
Ken-ST Moderator: lower capital
Ken-ST Moderator: less trading
Ken-ST Moderator: quicker
profits
kimmroni more luck
kimmroni from my perspective of
course
Ken-ST Moderator: never hurts
to have luck on your side
Hunter : just got back how'd
futures go today, Ken ?
Ken-ST Moderator: not bad
Ken-ST Moderator: 1 trade for
2.75 points
Hunter : How many lots ?
Ken-ST Moderator: 1
kimmroni Ken, is the basic
strategy similar or totally different. Will you
offer it on video for purchase?
kimmroni to stocks i mean
Hunter : keepin the cinch tight
huH ! lol still made money thats what counts !
Ken-ST Moderator: not similar
at all
Ken-ST Moderator: totally
different
Hunter : nice goin, Ken !
Ken-ST Moderator: I do not have
a video for purchase
kimmroni so it will be a "black
box"?
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kimmroni or will it be
explained as it develops during trading
Hunter : see ya all tomorrow,
take care
Ken-ST Moderator: I explain
while I am trading it
Ken-ST Moderator: ok Hunter
Ken-ST Moderator: take care
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BRUNO3 WHAT PLATFORM IS NEEDED
TO TRADE THE MINIS ?
Ken-ST Moderator: There are a
number of them,
Ken-ST Moderator: We have
relationships with a couple of them to get a good
deal for the room
Ken-ST Moderator: DAS platform
from SOF Direct.com
Ken-ST Moderator: that is a
universal platform for stocks and futures
Ken-ST Moderator: and Global
Futures
BRUNO3 ty
RoGeRj see you all in the AM
!!
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david Thanks Ken, James, ORCT
was kind to me
david See you tomorrow
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Ken-ST Moderator: nice david
jy has logged out
Ken-ST Moderator: take care
mark2 see you guys in the am.
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kimmron cu all tomorrow
reserve Tomorrow has to be
better
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Ken-ST Moderator: ok gang, have
a great evening.
Ken-ST Moderator: see you all
tomorrow
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